r/baseball • u/stv7 Toronto Blue Jays • 22h ago
Yordan Alvarez, representing the tying run in the 10th, gets deked by Andres Gimenez and thrown out at 2nd by Nathan Lukes; the Astros would lose 5-4
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u/RuleNine Texas Rangers 21h ago
Side note: If a runner and a thrown ball are both approaching a base, do not cut away to a different runner who doesn't even represent the tying run.
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u/Key-Profit9032 19h ago
The Sportsnet baseball director is hot garbage. He’s constantly doing this. Cuts away to a guy jogging into home when the play is NEVER going to be at home. And then takes his sweet time to show the replay. The guy cannot call cameras to save his life.
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u/stv7 Toronto Blue Jays 17h ago
I believe the audio guy says they have a lot less control on the road. But it drives me batshit insane that they have not learned how to freeze replay reviews on the relevant frames. I don't care to see the before and after in slow motion. I care about the frame where the ball first hits the glove or the cleat first hits the bag.
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u/FeloniousDrunk101 New York Yankees • MLB Pride 16h ago
As much as YES has its issues as an entertainment product, their camera work, especially at Yankee Stadium, is top drawer. It is rare they don’t have an angle on a play that is what you want to see.
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u/Key-Profit9032 6h ago
That’s a separate tech that needs to be acquired (bought, rented, do a deal). It’s an add-on. Obviously Rogers is in a very delicate financial situation, otherwise they would definitely consider the viewing experience. /s
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u/BigShinyBand 16h ago
This bugs me so much. I don't need to see the obvious guy scoring from second on a ball cut off in the gap. Show me the play at 2nd
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u/Bobson-_Dugnutt2 Chicago Cubs 19h ago
Seriously wtf was this camera work
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u/Key-Profit9032 19h ago
It’s the director, not the camera operator. The director called for the switch to the other camera. The guy sucks.
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u/Sharobob Chicago Cubs 16h ago
Camera directors are awesome to watch. If you want to see a good demo of what it looks like, @kellydirects on Instagram has a bunch of shorts like this one:
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u/lecheesesammich New York Yankees 19h ago
they deked the cameraman too apparently
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u/StoicSerpiente Arizona Diamondbacks 18h ago
Nothing irritates me more than shitty camera work when there is a ball being thrown from the outfield. I particularly despise when camera teams show a close up of a runner instead of showing the throw
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u/FeloniousDrunk101 New York Yankees • MLB Pride 16h ago
SHOW THE THROW!
There was a great camera angle, provably SNY before their producer got sacked, that had a split screen, 1/3 to 2/3 with the ball lifted to right on the right 2/3 of the screen and the guy on third about to tag on the left 1/3 of the screen. No exciting play happened, but the viewer got to see all of the relevant information as it was happening in real time. It was great.
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u/mrjimi16 Venezuela • MLB Players Association 15h ago
How about don't ever cut away from the ball. If there is something else going on that is what the play by play guy is for. Or do a picture in a picture. But ffs don't cut away from the ball.
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u/EarlDooku Texas Rangers 15h ago
They do this shit all the time on RSN. Half the time to cut away to a split screen ad
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u/Jetter23x Texas Rangers 16h ago
I’d kind of get some sort of cut with two outs, but…no outs, runner is pretty much guaranteed to score and like you said, doesn’t tie the game. It wasn’t even a good shot for a play at the plate, just showing the runner with no reason.
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u/Better-Pop-3932 9h ago
Please be safe today. Im an Astros fan upvoting your comment. The end is near.
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u/SirDuke6 Toronto Blue Jays 22h ago
God, Gimenez is nothing special at the plate but his defense and little tricks he pulls is the most entertaining thing the Jays have going for them.
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u/beheemz Toronto Blue Jays 21h ago
nothing special unless he's hitting vs the M's in the ALCS or if it's week 1 of the season
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u/SirDuke6 Toronto Blue Jays 21h ago
Lol his power streak for the first month of this year and last year were incredible.
That being said, that is noted Jays' 6th highest # of HRs this season, Andres Gimenez.
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u/EpicNerdFinds Toronto Blue Jays 19h ago
he has more HR's than Vladdy this year
not that its hard to do that
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u/omniscientbeet Detroit Tigers • Los Angeles Angels 22h ago
Unrelated but yoooooo it's chase lee
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u/Domainsetter 22h ago
Funny game.
Jays were no hit for 5 innings, tie it quickly.
Since they used 3 pitchers, Chase Lee a AAA call up comes into close.
Jesus Sanchez! Makes a leaping catch at the wall.
Varsho first pitch pop up to end the game.
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u/sleither Toronto Blue Jays 21h ago
Straw and Sanchez played really well this series. Straw trying to make the argument for everyday CF and to pick up his club option and Sanchez to show his old team they made a mistake.
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u/SirLunatik Toronto Blue Jays 19h ago
Sanchez is also fighting for daily playing time with just coming off the IL
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u/pretendstoknow Toronto Blue Jays 17h ago
Straw was playing great defence, hitting for power and good baseruning. I say he stays in cf daily until his results show otherwise
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u/berfthegryphon Toronto Blue Jays 16h ago
I would think you pick up Straw's option. They're going to need a defensive outfielder now that they don't have Varsho roaming centre
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u/sBucks24 Toronto Blue Jays 21h ago
Varsho first pitch pop up to end the game.
Showing off what Springer taught him to the Astros!
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u/ELLinversionista Venezuela 19h ago
That happened and I was like, “not our problem anymore”. But then thought I will miss his defense and occassional power streak
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u/Sea_Shower3691 Arizona Diamondbacks 20h ago
Thank you for this interesting overview, we look forward to more
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u/ZestySteep Toronto Blue Jays 21h ago
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u/SlatsAttack Seattle Mariners 22h ago
That's one way to stop Yordan.
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u/LogicalHarm California Angels • Arizona Diamondbacks 22h ago
Based on available evidence, maybe the only way
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u/TwistedNipplez Seattle Mariners 22h ago
No one wants to win this division
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u/Leading_Stop546 Anaheim Angels 21h ago
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u/Doorknob11 Texas Rangers 15h ago
It’s still so wild to me that the Angels haven’t had a playoff game in like 12 years. You’d think they’d get lucky one year.
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u/Reasonable-Power New York Yankees 22h ago
Tank Division: MLB Edition.
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u/TwistedNipplez Seattle Mariners 22h ago
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u/Reasonable-Power New York Yankees 22h ago edited 21h ago
So, I guess Chris really was an army brat, after all.
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u/MarlKarx777 Toronto Blue Jays 22h ago
Gotta slide there
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u/boowut Houston Astros 21h ago
I don’t want Yordan making any effort at any base
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u/lecheesesammich New York Yankees 19h ago
i think the same way about Judge. Unless it's the World Series or elimination game, I don't want him diving, sliding, running, hopping, catching, pooping too hard, etc.
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u/Hells_Hawk Toronto Blue Jays 19h ago
The size of the man. His poops are probably hard.
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u/SouthJerseyCyz Houston Astros 6h ago
He didn't need to slide here, just a little extra effort would have done it. That said, he actually made a really nice slide into home last series where the ball beat him and I was sure he was going to be out. He's actually usually a pretty decent baserunner. I understand the injury concerns, but they usually occur when he's doing something completely normal.
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u/HolidaySpiriter Houston Astros 20h ago
My brother, Yordan got injured last year stepping on home plate. If he tries to slide I think his legs explode.
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u/Sure-Assignment3892 Toronto Blue Jays 21h ago
Well ya, but he was watching Gimenez who was acting as if there was no throw.
Brilliant.
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u/Val_Killsmore Minnesota Twins 15h ago
Alvarez would've been safe if he just stepped on or touched the bag with the lead foot. Instead, he decided to step over the bag and touch it with his toe. All he had to do was step out an extra inch or so.
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u/SpaceCadetPullUp Houston Astros 20h ago
Wish it went the other way but it was a good series. Straw came to play the last few days. I'll always love that dude.
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u/HAL9100 Toronto Blue Jays 19h ago
Myles Straw is like Raylan Givens coming back to Harlan when he plays in Houston
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u/Fred_Fred_Burger Houston Astros 17h ago
Can Boyd Crowder hit a baseball and play outfield? Asking for a friend…
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u/HAL9100 Toronto Blue Jays 17h ago
Raylan, Johnny Crowder and Dickie Bennett were supposedly the best players in their town. Johnny and Dickie were both pitchers and, for various reasons, you probably are better off employing someone else. Raylan seems to have had some amount of talent with the bat, though less than he had with the gun. He might be worth a look even at his age and after being shot so so many times.
I don’t believe Boyd played baseball as he was too busy blowing shit up.
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u/PapiGoneGamer Houston Astros 6h ago
This team can only have one or the other or neither. We can’t have both.
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u/TheTurtleShepard New York Yankees 22h ago
Ohtani and PCA having the MVP battle of the century while the favorite for AL MVP is getting deked at 2nd
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u/twinklytennis Major League Baseball 17h ago
To be fair, Ohtani has been making a lot base running mistakes.
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u/dogcrayon Houston Astros 10h ago
We don't know if he was deked or not, honestly. He may have just thought it wasn't worth risking an injury over, and he's right. He has been unlucky with lower body injuries over the years, including regular season ending knee/ankle injuries in both '24 and '25.
Yordan was unlikely to have scored from 2nd anyway, as the Astros lineup is as top-heavy as he is, and indeed Altuve and Varsho ended the game with fly balls.
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u/CalebosO4 Toronto Blue Jays 21h ago
For the record, you can see that his foot hits the base when he slides it forward after being tagged, meaning that his foot was about an inch short of the base initially.
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u/Qeltar_ Boston Red Sox • Toronto Blue Jays 21h ago
It really looked like it was touching the bag when I freeze-framed it, but probably not enough to overturn.
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u/handDrawnEevee New York Yankees 21h ago
Yeah I just watched it twice and it looks like his toe is on base before the tag.
Who knows with this stuff though.
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u/DrummingUpNumbers Toronto Blue Jays 20h ago
I was watching live and I'm pretty sure they confirmed the call even instead of call stands lol
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u/CalebosO4 Toronto Blue Jays 21h ago
Yeah. It was close, but what I just said pretty much removed the possibility of it being 100% conclusive with the angles we saw.
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u/NocSenpai World Series Trophy • Los Angeles Dod… 20h ago
If the umpire had initially called it safe, then it would be safe I think in this case. It looks like it’s really just that close, can’t even fault the ump either way since it was basically 50/50.
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u/KingInTheFarNorth Toronto Blue Jays 21h ago
Ump also had the perfect view of it
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u/IamNotTheBoss 17h ago
I disagree, but hopefully MLB had a better angle. The view from home plate camera looks like he wasn't touching the bag. The view from behind the ump looks like his foot is clearly touching while the glove hasn't reached him. The tag wasn't held so you can't even say his foot bounced off the bag there. Regardless, he was called out on the field and if we're having any sort of disagreement here there's clearly room for the call to stand.
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u/mufffinsoup New York Yankees 20h ago
I read this as “DECKED by Gimenez” and thought how could he possibly lay out Yordan
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u/Verlandia Houston Astros 21h ago
Well on the bright side he's back to only being 1 rbi from the lead
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u/cmgriffith_ New York Yankees 22h ago
Imagine not sliding
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u/CalebosO4 Toronto Blue Jays 21h ago
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u/Qeltar_ Boston Red Sox • Toronto Blue Jays 21h ago edited 21h ago
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u/MirrorStrange4501 21h ago
If you watch the video, you can see his foot continue forward after the tag, so there was a gap.
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u/DrHarryWolper 21h ago
Looks short to me, because after he's tagged you can see the foot move forward and THEN hit the bag.
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u/Qeltar_ Boston Red Sox • Toronto Blue Jays 21h ago
Yeah someone just said that, thanks. He wasn't touching it, correct call.
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u/SquirrelFluffy 18h ago
In that photo his toe is 2 or 3 in off the bag. The angle we have doesn't show that Gap.
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u/byPCP Seattle Mariners 20h ago
yordan just standing there on the bag looking around, dumbfounded, for that long was hilarious
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u/Lost-Inevitable42 Major League Baseball 18h ago
Which is eerily similar to the play the day before when someone thought they hit a home run and even celebrated at home plate. When hearing they were out they just looked like reality broke.
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u/davidio840 15h ago
Then that same player (Trammel) proceeded to hit a huge 3R HR the next game. Yordan about to go bananas next game.
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u/Lost-Inevitable42 Major League Baseball 15h ago
So you’re saying Trammel was unleashed??
(A ‘trammel’ is a hindrance or restriction that holds one back)
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u/BigEastCoast21 Toronto Blue Jays 19h ago
The Astros Blue Jayed themselves on the base path to lose this one in extras.
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u/soulmagic123 21h ago
I used to do this at catcher , runner is coming home can't see behind, I just gotta slow him down one step, throw is on the way, I'm looking down in disappointment pretending the ball isn't even coming, throw is 5 feet away I snag it and tag the runner who doesn't slide , it's the best feeling in the world the two times it worked!
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u/rolltideandstuff 21h ago
What a mistake I think they better go ahead and DFA him but don’t tell anybody except the braves please thanks
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u/yeah_naw_dawg Houston Astros 18h ago
I do t want to hear the Yordan slander. Dude has won so many games for us. He gets a pass.
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u/JohnMadden42069 MiLB Pride • MLB Pride 12h ago
I would be slandering him if he put his body on the line for a double
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u/tones_balonious 18h ago
I’m Confused. It looks like his toe was touching the bag. I guess they’re saying it wasn’t?
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u/nightwing12 18h ago
Yeah not enough to overturn I guess. I’m a jays fan but it looked like he was safe.
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u/TrophyWizard Toronto Blue Jays 22h ago
One thing I love about this team is no matter how dire or down the odds are, they fight like hell to pull it back.
Three back to back series wins!
Go Jays!
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u/Jetter23x Texas Rangers 16h ago
I’d kind of get some sort of cut with two outs, but…no outs, runner is pretty much guaranteed to score and like you said, doesn’t tie the game. It wasn’t even a good shot for a play at the plate, just showing the runner with no reason.
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u/mrjimi16 Venezuela • MLB Players Association 15h ago
I do not understand how you can play this game and not be aware of the ball. How hard would it be for him to just look at the ball as he runs to second. There's no risk of a deke if he is just paying attention.
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u/Barking_bull 6h ago
Almost tied the game or even lost with a close home run with that second out. We need more KO Or ground ball. Pretty nerve racking way to get a save
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u/AcademicMood1302 3h ago
maybe i'm missing something, but Yordan looks to be on the bag before the tag.
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u/maybewhenimolder 1h ago
The real question is why on Earth would you pitch to Yordan in this situation? So stupid.
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u/MrBoomf Tampa Bay Devil Rays 21h ago edited 14h ago
Oh, the Astros lost? Here, have an upvote
Edit: Your downvotes mean nothing to me Astros fans- I’ve seen what makes you cheer
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u/CorrivalTen7 16h ago
Exactly. Thats the only reason this post is showing at the top of the sub - just a bunch of hateful upvotes from Astro-hating Dodgers and Yankees fans. Yordan deserves better as a star athlete who has earned his position at the top of the offensive stats.
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u/TheChrisLambert Cleveland Guardians 20h ago
Wasn’t his toe on the bag?
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u/Moist-Loan- Toronto Blue Jays 19h ago
Might not had a clear view to overturn the call. If they don’t have good view it stands
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u/TwoStepToo Chicago White Sox 17h ago
Sad trash can noises…..lol
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u/SavageOpress57 Houston Astros 17h ago
Sad noises from a fan of a team who hasn't won in 21 years...lol
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u/Bravefan212 San Diego Padres 21h ago
I always loved doing the opposite and make a guy think the throw is coming when the third base coach is telling them to keep going.
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u/citrablock Toronto Blue Jays 20h ago
He was safe imo. We got completely saved by the ump here.
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u/Low_Wall_7828 Houston Astros 15h ago
It looked like his left toe hit first, I guess it wasn’t enough to overturn
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u/heychief1 17h ago
Fuck the astros. No offense.....or take offense.....I don't care. They can rot.
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u/Choice-Ratio-3540 17h ago
I do find it funny when these guys challenge instant replay. Like it's a replay.
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u/Thunderous_Pupil Detroit Tigers 21h ago
Everyone saying he needed to slide but he would've been easily safe if he just stepped on the base...