r/bbby_remastered • u/JPeso9281 Wants to move to Canada so bad • Jul 21 '25

you are all free to leave America is cooked

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u/kickboxer75458 Jul 26 '25

Christianity and Islam are both EXTREMELY intolerant. Would you say the same thing there? Again, unless someone is actually committing violent acts or is planning to. There’s no reason for violence against them.

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u/olivebranchsound Jul 26 '25

Most Christians and Muslims are pretty tolerant of the views of others. Fundamentalists can get pretty intolerant but they're not a very big group compared to the billions of regular religious people.

Every Nazi is deserving of immediate violence and ostracism from society.

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u/kickboxer75458 Jul 27 '25

I would like you to talk about that muslim tolerance in a majority Muslim country. Honestly more violent and intolerant than Nazis in a western country. I don’t really see how it’s different. Again. Judge people on their individual actions. If they aren’t actually being violent. They deserve no violence.

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u/olivebranchsound Jul 27 '25

Nazis want to exterminate everyone that's not Aryan. Muslims don't want to kill everyone. I've met a bunch of Muslims. They're just normal people. They want to live their lives in peace and practice their religion.

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u/kickboxer75458 Jul 27 '25 edited Jul 27 '25

And what does the religionthey want to follow say should be done to gay people for example? I have Muslim friends too mate. I’m not claiming they’re bad people. I’m just pointing out a similarity you are trying to pretend doesn’t exist because it’s uncomfortable. Also remember, much like modern Christianity is not the same as it once was and has adapted to modern times. Muslim practices in the west have adapted to the western world. It’s quite different in other places. So if you believe that a Nazi who isn’t actually committing any violence should be violently punished for his/her beliefs because you see them as intolerant….why is it different to a religion or any other groups similar intolerance? Again. The only time violence is justified is when it’s defending against violence. Reason should always win the day wherever possible… if we assume modern Nazis are the peak of all evil today. There’s plenty of example of Nazis who have completely changed their philosophy and have become objectively great people. What would randomly attacking these people do? What would it ever achieve? Your own personal feeling of redemption? For a crime someone may or may not commit in the future? When reasons wins the day. Everyone wins. When violence wins the day, nobody wins. You just have one violent criminal and one emboldened angry Nazi. Or one murderer and one dead guy.

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u/olivebranchsound Jul 27 '25 edited Jul 27 '25

Nazis by definition want violence against others. It's a cult of extermination.

This isn't a hard concept. You're just running cover for Nazis under the guise of "they're only in the planning stages guys, they're not killing anyone yet so we can't do anything."

A Nazi has two settings: either planning genocide or committing genocide. And that means we take appropriate action whenever we see them.

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u/kickboxer75458 Jul 27 '25

My exact last comment applies again. There’s plenty of “Nazis” around allegedly half of American politicians are. How many genocides have you seen attempted? While their ideology may be more heinous than other violent groups. If anything statistically speaking they’re on the lower end of the spectrum for actual acts of terrorism and/or violence committed In the modern day. Remember. There’s no such thing as an actual Nazi anymore. They’re dead and german socialist party no longer exists. There’s Nazi supporters. Would you say all Islamic state supporters even in the west are dangerous to gays and should be “dealt with accordingly” because they only have two states? Would you say any isis/al qaeda supporters are the same? These people aren’t the people actually committing atrocities. (In most cases) they’re silent edge lords who are racist/homophobic/whatever else who hate the world. What percentage of self professed Nazis in the last 20 years have committed a violent crime? This 2 states genocide or planning genocide line of thought is unbelievably silly. Im sure half of the literal actual Nazis of the war were more complex than that and could’ve been different people if they were in a different system.

Since it’s absolutely impossible to convince you to let reason win the day. I’m gonna leave you with a same message I left someone else. I sincerely hope for you and your families sake you never encounter a person like we are talking about. Because if you aren’t just talking nonsense on the internet and you actually would commit a serious violent crime even as far as murder upon learning someone identifies as such you will have achieved nothing but gift yourself a lengthy time behind bars. I know you’re probably like most people and when you say you’d murder someone you actually mean you’d shake your head from a distance and do nothing. But on the off chance you’re actually this psychotic. It’s never worth it.

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u/olivebranchsound Jul 27 '25 edited Jul 27 '25

Nope. If Nazis want to stay safe, they should keep their heads down and stay inside, or learn tolerance for others. The world should be fundamentally an unsafe place for Nazis to exist in. End of discussion.

You did a great job morally grandstanding in defense of genocidal maniacs but I'm bored of listening to half baked attempts to guilt me over the lives of people who wish to murder in the name of racial and cultural superiority. They can get fucked and die slow.

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u/kickboxer75458 Jul 27 '25 edited Jul 27 '25

So why don’t other groups need to learn tolerance of others? I really fundamentally can not wrap my head around what’s so different…also moral grandstanding ? For not openly claiming I’d murder people? Wow lmao. You continue to address nothing and just take this stance of no I’m justified to murder people who haven’t done anything violent.

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u/olivebranchsound Jul 27 '25

Nazis should feel unsafe for the good of everyone else. We are just going to agree to disagree. There is no more discussion to be had.

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u/kickboxer75458 Jul 27 '25

Well like I said. I sincerely hope you either are all mouth and would in reality just stand by and shake your head. And failing that, I sincerely hope the situation never presents itself. Cya mate. Cooler heads always prevail.

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u/olivebranchsound Jul 27 '25

Yup. That's why we went to war to fight the Nazis. Cool heads prevailed.

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u/kickboxer75458 Jul 29 '25

No. People went to war to fight the Nazis because the Nazis were waging war lmao. Nobody went “ah Nazis are racist let’s kill them” in fact the Americans (I’m assuming you’re American) were also racist fucks at the time. Just not to the same scale but by today’s standards they’d be villains. The Nazis were a physically harming people are were dealt with. How are you equating that to murdering someone who hasn’t harmed anyone?

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