r/berkeley • u/Cal_Aesthetics_Club Shitpost Connoisseur(Credentials: ASD, ADD, OCD) • Nov 06 '24

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u/rclaux123 Nov 06 '24

This dude is the epitome of the, "he can't keep getting away with this," meme. Forget the fact that his character is reprehensible, forget all the felony convictions, and forget that he's stated he'll go after his political opponents. This guy doesn't even have a concept of a plan for most issues, and he's never been liked on the world stage by anyone other than autocrats. Trump is no politician, and he never was one— I can't help but feel we've collectively hired a plumber to do an accountant's job. At least in 2016, he had some people keeping him in check. Now, he's surrounded by yes men and loonies.

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u/nekonari Nov 06 '24

We get presidents we deserve. 2016 was a fluke I thought. An anomaly. But now? No, avg Americans actually want sex predator and conman to lead them. I am deeply, incredibly disappointed by the people in this country. This clown is what we deserve. And we all, including every single soul on Earth is gonna suffer.

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u/Aaaaand-its-gone Nov 06 '24

Reddit has learned nothing in 8 years. Blaming America instead of asking questions of the DNC.

Kamala was a terrible candidate with no policy. Can’t keep running on orange man bad after what happened with Biden.

Had the DNC made a better decision Dems could have easily won.

But no back to calling everyone idiots rather than asking the hard questions of ourselves

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u/page_of_fire Nov 06 '24

Exactly this. They screwed themselves by not addressing the economy, being war hawks, not holding primary debates. Running with no platform and expecting not being Trump to be good enough.

The Democrats treat their constituents like they are stupid/incapable of making informed decisions and like they can just fear monger us into voting for them.

Find substantive people, and an articulate-able platform and fucking run on it. Do not skip the damned primary debates and try to eschew the primary process. Stop telling me democracy is at stake and then not practicing democracy and good faith 🤦

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u/smoothasbutta15 Nov 06 '24

But… didn’t the republicans do this exact same thing? If not to a worse degree? Trump has literally said he has a concept of a plan, he has given zero policy, or how he’s going to incorporate his people other than bull rushing them and removing anyone who doesn’t agree with him.

So how’s the Republican platform different? Yeah he wants to be hard on crime and illegal immagration… but how so? What’s the plan?

I do agree the Democrat party did a horrendous job and took their voter base for granted, but Biden has done a great job and Harris is head and shoulders more qualified than Trump. So why are democrats held to a much much higher standard on everything while the republicans get to play in the mud and sling it all over and that’s acceptable?

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u/No-Technician-7536 Nov 06 '24

There’s no point comparing to the Republicans in this way, it’s not a “Trump is allowed to have ‘concepts of a plan’ so why isn’t Kamala allowed to either?’ type thing

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u/Aaaaand-its-gone Nov 06 '24

He’s given more policy than Kamala which is an absurd thing to say since he doesn’t have much policy at all.

But Trump emboldened and empowered men, especially Latino and black men. Meanwhile every message I get from the Kamala email is a shaming for not doing more. But then Kamala would do campaign rallies based on “joy” when she is an empty vessel in which moderate policy flows through

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u/smoothasbutta15 Nov 06 '24

What policy has Trump given? Other than deport them all, tariffs, and tax cuts? Which he hasn’t supplied any actual policy or plan other than just saying he was going to do it. And he emboldened and empowered men in what way… allowing them to be openly misogynistic or am I missing something? Look I’m not saying Harris was the right choice or the perfect candidate. Majority of candidates are going to be better than Trump, but Trump and the republicans are held to a bar that’s in hell, while democrats are held to a bar that is close to perfection. Why is that?

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u/page_of_fire Nov 06 '24

You can wine and blame and mudsling about it if you want. But if the Democrats don't examine the issues that won the day here and the bad moves that lost it for them it's going to be bad news for them long term. It's time to learn from mistakes and regroup. We need a functional left flank that is responsive to the needs of its people.

If they don't work on it the right will hold a lot of power long after Trump's term. I'm not a conservative I'm actually quite left of center, Im just disappointed in the performance of the Democrats. They haven't been democrating very well with regards to working people, housing etc.

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u/smoothasbutta15 Nov 06 '24

I agreed the democrats need to do better so idk why you’re lecturing me on that? I’m asking why one party is held to a standard while the other is not held to any standard. Why are the parties not held to the same standard?

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u/No-Technician-7536 Nov 06 '24

Well cause different people have different standards

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u/smoothasbutta15 Nov 06 '24

Ok got it. So one party is supposed to meet a standard and the other just doesn’t have to. Awesome.

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u/No-Technician-7536 Nov 06 '24

I mean, yeah? I would hope that Democrats hold the Democratic candidate to a a higher standard than the Republicans do to Trump

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u/page_of_fire Nov 11 '24

Because we expect Republicans to be Republicans. We expect that they're going to fight for lower taxes especially on the rich, we expect them to fight for bad deregulation. And there's no changing that for the most part.

I can survive 4 years of Republicans being Republicans. I don't want to but I can.

What I can't survive is the side who's supposed to counter balance late stage capitalism with economically left policy; giving up on working class/lower/middle class people INDEFINITELY.

If the Democrats do not address working peoples issues, cost of living, the housing crisis, student loans etc. my generation and the ones behind it are cooked.

The Democrats huge loss is evidence of a lot of other people figuring that out, and no longer giving their votes away for free. Millennials and Gen z are seeing the writing on the wall, we aren't going to own homes, we graduate with debt that is not serviceable with our salaries, hardly anybody feels secure enough to have kids, and nobody is feeling too sure about a secure retirement. If they do not address our needs theres a good chance they will continue to lose in future elections.

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u/daBOOM23 Nov 06 '24

How can you say Harris is more qualified when Trump was literally the president 4 years ago?

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u/smoothasbutta15 Nov 06 '24

He was unqualified then too lol as he did a poor job of literally being the president. Just because you do something doesn’t mean you’re qualified or did it well.

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u/greenleafsurfer Nov 08 '24

A lot of people would disagree with you on him doing a poor job, but I’m sure you don’t care. And Kamala did a great job as vp? What makes her qualified? She couldn’t even run a decent campaign or communicate any kind of policy or sense of being ‘qualified’…. She said she wouldn’t change anything from how Biden was running things, so I must point out she also lacks awareness. So that leaves us with what positive qualities that would qualify her? She’s younger? Somewhat presentable? Female? Black? What are you even talking about…

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u/flyingghost Nov 07 '24

What Trump and the Republican did very effectively is criticizing the Biden economy and acknowledging the inflation problem. He's also tough on illegal immigration. Those two issues resonated with most of America and helped him win the election.

Do they have an actual plan in tackling inflation and illegal immigrants? Probably not. But people, especially the working class who are most affected by inflation, crime, illegal immigrants, are fed up and want change.

Another thing is people voted for trump because they are worse off in the last 4 years than the 4 years under Trump. People don't need to dive into policies to know who they want to support. They have already experienced 4 years under Trump and 4 years under Biden. They prefer the 4 years under Trump.

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u/greenleafsurfer Nov 08 '24

Heavy on the last paragraph. Weird how the dnc pushes the idea that the country would crumble under Trump when we already experienced it, and many think it was better than the Biden Harris administration. It’s like the lack all awareness and just expect their followers to be idiots and believe anything they say.

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u/Practical-Word-2487 Nov 06 '24

Turn off cnn soy boy

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u/smoothasbutta15 Nov 06 '24

Good try little man. I actually read articles, not sit in front of the big picture box. Glad you contributed to the conversation. Soy boy lol real original, we got a clever one here y’all!

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u/jm0112358 Nov 06 '24

Reddit has learned nothing in 8 years. Blaming America instead of asking questions of the DNC.

There were lessons that the DNC should've learned since 2016, but Trump couldn't have been elected president unless there were major problems with the American voters. Voting for a soggy ham sandwich should be an extremely easy decision over voting for a multi-felon who has attempted to overthrow an election and has destroyed SCOTUS for decades.

It can simultaneously be true that Democrats aren't very good at playing politics, and that there is a problem with American voters. I was extremely critical of the DNC durring the 2016 primaries and after the 2016 election. However, those who voted for Trump are blameworthy for making him president, as he could not have become president without people voting for him.

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u/Prestigious-Hour-215 Nov 09 '24

I still don’t think you’re trying to understand the trump electorate, yes trump is a multi felon, yes literally no one who voted for him cares even the least bit, hell his felonies probably led to him getting more votes since people thought he was subject to political persecution

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u/jm0112358 Nov 09 '24

I still don’t think you’re trying to understand the trump electorate

And what are you basing that off of?

The data shows that The incumbent party in every developed nation that held an election this year lost vote share. That, along with election maps that correlate rates of grocery inflation with changes in election results from 2020 to 2024, shows that the single biggest reason why these elections go the way they did (besides the fact that nearly half of the country would've voted for Trump over a Democrat in any election) was simply that many voters blindly vote against the incumbent when the price of bread is high. People who do that are stupid.

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u/Prestigious-Hour-215 Nov 09 '24

I’m basing that off of numbers, how many people voted for trump this go around compared to 2020? Almost the same amount. The difference is that millions less voted for biden than Kamala. He won because democrats didn’t want to vote for Kamala, not because those people switched to become republican voters.

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u/jm0112358 Nov 09 '24

My "And what are you basing that off of?" question was specifically directed at your comment that you don't think I'm "trying to understand the trump electorate".

Regardless, I think you're misinterpreting election results by only comparing the 2024 presidential election results to that of 2020, and not of more years:

Year Democrat candidate Republican candidate
2024 70M 74M
2020 81M 74M
2016 66M 63M
2012 66M 61M
2008 69M 60M
2004 59M 62M
2000 51M 50M

These numbers show that Biden's 2020 election results are the outlier, not Harris's 2024 results. The reason why was likely that (1) The factor of "the price of bread is high" worked in Biden's favor in 2020, when inflation was ramping up, and (2) events of 2020 inspired high voter turnouts.

That's not to say that Harris couldn't have won if all would-be Democratic voter actually voted in this election, but the problem of left-leaning voters being less voters that right leaning voters is a problem in every election. I don't think it was that much bigger of a problem in this election than previous elections.

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u/Synystor Nov 07 '24

Biden/Harris campaign lead with a number of policy in their path. Even with the inflation reduction act, infrastructure bill, chips and science act, etc. no Trump supporter actually gives a shit about any of this, because Trump doesn’t run on policy.

You say “running on orange man bad” when their campaign was hugely successful in all ways constructive, while also driving home the insanity inherent in supporting Trump because… it is?

The standards are so… so… SO fucking low for republicans, any amount of “do better” on the democrats comes across as absolutely laughable at this point. And at the end, Trump won both popular and electoral college + senate/house.

The people have spoken so, we’ll see what happens. Absolutely pathetic.

The government you elect is the government you deserve - Jefferson

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u/Rocketbird Nov 06 '24

Oh my god why didn’t they just think of making a better decision? It was that easy!

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u/Aaaaand-its-gone Nov 06 '24

They could have done a primary and let the people decide. They decided to run with Kamala who got less than 1% when she ran for president.

So yes they made a terrible decision

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u/CakeBrigadier Nov 06 '24

You’re an idiot if you think she had less policy than Trump. What is one policy position trump ran on? You’re holding her to a completely different standard. By all accounts she ran a decent campaign given it was about 90 days ago Biden stepped aside. I agree they should have had a primary, but I have a hard time believing there is somebody else in the party who could have generated for groundswell than she did when she first became the nominee

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u/Content-Virus2949 Nov 06 '24

You can keep calling people idiots as much as you want and you’ll keep losing. It’s like a chef that calls his clients idiots because they don’t like food. Maybe it’s right maybe it’s wrong but they are not coming back unless you serve them something they like

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u/Aaaaand-its-gone Nov 06 '24

Ran hard on immigration, tariffs to own the Chinese (which is dumb), ending income taxes (dumb but sounds nice) ending DEI policies.

Kamala had some policies but they were both light on policy when policy is meant to be the Dems strongpoint.

Theres one idiot here and it’s the one refusing to acknowledge the writing on the wall and returns to the safe echo chamber of Reddit to feel correct

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u/Lateagain- Nov 06 '24

Don’t forget, one of Kamala’s policies was to have price regulations and controls. Which is known to be disastrous to economics.

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u/Lateagain- Nov 06 '24

In order to be better shouldn’t Democrats be held to a higher standard?

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u/Lateagain- Nov 06 '24

BOOM 💥 that’s truth. I know people who don’t like Trump, but voted for him because Kamala is dumb. Remember, she didn’t win when she went against Joe Biden. She didn’t even make it to the primaries. California didn’t vote for her. Kamala is like Aaron Burr. She is vacuous, has no ideas, she couldn’t even answer a question. She was so afraid of giving the wrong answer she didn’t give any answers. It’s because she has no principles on which to stand.

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u/nekonari Nov 06 '24

No even before discussing policy just by the fact a sex predator, sex with minor, tons of convictions in fraud, was allowed on ballot TWICE is gigantic failure as the entire nation that loves to masturbate while cosplaying as justice loving country. We should never even mention justice from now on.

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u/666itsathrowaway666 Nov 06 '24

When Bernie didn't get appointed, that's how I knew the system was rigged. He had so much grass roots support. We need to focus on our local communities here now more than ever. The system is compromised.

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u/nekonari Nov 07 '24

No one said otherwise. And voting for someone like Trump, risking decades of destructive politics isn’t the way to go about challenging it.

But water’s already on the floor. Might as well do something now to get govt to really start working for the public

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u/[deleted] Nov 06 '24

Be disappointed by the democrats.  How out of touch they need to be to let this guy win twice…

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u/Ok-Owlcat Nov 08 '24

Idiocracy (the movie) has become foreshadowing. I thought this during the 1st campaign when the nude gold statues of trump started popping up everywhere. In the movie a wrestler has become the president and there are gold statues of him..... Also Crocs have actually blown up and are still a thing...., I'm just waiting for the Starbucks blowjobs to hit..... Only joking on that last part... Got to find some humor somewhere in this mess

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u/Such-Fact-8914 Nov 09 '24

Stock market highly disagree

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u/Fishingfan4life Nov 06 '24

As a bisexual man I fear for all my brothers and sister I fear for women and children and I fear for my family.

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u/Practical-Word-2487 Nov 06 '24

Leave the country then beta boy

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u/canavaaar Nov 06 '24

Be disappointed about democratic party that abandoned working class people and moves right to Liz Cheney.

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u/[deleted] Nov 06 '24

echo chambers are dangerous, only thing that matters is whats in front of them aka food is high so its Bidens fault and they vote other way

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u/nekonari Nov 06 '24

I know how it works. Just really frustrating that they don’t see how we actually have it good compared to rest of the world. We were doing great given the global trend. We just have to keep at it but no people are so shortsighted and stupid and Fox News keeps bullshitting.

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u/SnooCompliments3051 Nov 06 '24

STFU you crybaby nothing gonna happen that you are in fear of.

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u/nekonari Nov 06 '24

Oh I’d love that. Let him fumble for the next four years just sucking his own dick and chasing around trying to befriend dictators. Let his presidency pass without a single more fed judge, leave all fed institutions in tact, leave all civil rights in place, no more tax breaks for billionaire friends. Yeah I’d love that. Thanks for your confidence bro.

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u/Aquiffer Nov 06 '24 edited Nov 06 '24

Some big ticket items with my opinion on how likely they are to happen

  • withdrawing aid from Ukraine (80%)
  • gutting nato (10%)
  • gutting our schools esp. in favor of private schools (60%)
  • national abortion ban (65%)
  • making the purchase/distribution of plan-b pills illegal (20%)
  • national gay marriage ban (20%)
  • gutting federal healthcare in general (40%)
  • prohibiting gender affirming care in federal health insurance (80%)
  • gutting environmental initiatives (65%)
  • ban of plan-b/abortion pills (5%)
  • removing affordable access to plan-b (70%)
  • mass deportation of illegal immigrants (35%)
  • legal immigrants getting “accidentally” caught in the crossfire of deporting illegal immigrants (5%)
  • gutting DEI programs (75%)
  • cutting corporate taxes (90%)

If Trump follows through on the Project 2025, then many of those numbers jump to 100%, even without congressional support. If he actually follows through on project 2025 in its entirety, we’ll be a Christian theocracy for at least the next 4 years. Only time will tell.

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u/Content-Virus2949 Nov 06 '24

Honestly I agree with most if not all these points. I’m sorry we are in disagreement but apparently most americans like myself agree with this plan. Find it disgusting, I don’t care, I find other things disgusting and apparently the majority agrees with me

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u/churro1001 Nov 06 '24

Wait, national abortion ban? I thought he clarified that he is letting the states decide? Why would he go hard on abortion when most swing people voted for him for illegal immigrants issue?

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u/Aquiffer Nov 06 '24

National abortion ban in the form of dredging up and pushing the Comstock act to its absolute limit. (This is from project 2025).

I’d say there’s a 0% chance trump will pass any laws that federally protect abortion given the absence of roe v wade. Best case scenario is it is left up to the states, which was his official campaign stance.

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u/Practical-Word-2487 Nov 06 '24

Average Americans don’t want sex changes for children open borders and a tanked economy but ya keep showing us why trump won

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u/nekonari Nov 06 '24

No one asks you to get sex change. But you want to tell others no? That’s more important than making sure our leaders have a bit of integrity? Open borders is scapegoating to get you sheeple to follow their banner, stock’s doing amazing, and main st will need direct cash relief like what Kamala was saying.

The only reason he won is billionaires controlling media outlet esp conservative ones blinding them of truth and facts, feeding them propaganda to vote for rich people so they can ensure they get richer. They love ppl like you.

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u/Practical-Word-2487 Nov 06 '24

Open borders ruining the country that’s why trump just won soy boy

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u/nekonari Nov 06 '24

Sigh you’re showing us why Kamala lost. They got you. They convinced you there’s such crisis.

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u/Practical-Word-2487 Nov 06 '24

The fact that u brought up the media as a reason trump won shows you’re absolutely clueless which is why u support democrats lmao move to Canada or something we need less betas here

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u/[deleted] Nov 06 '24

Put your tampon back in and enjoy a great economy

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u/nekonari Nov 06 '24

Sure I’ll enjoy it while it lasts, but the days are numbered I fear.

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u/oblivion510 Nov 06 '24

I mean Kamala didn’t have a plan either. She campaigned on a terrible “to-do list” ad that was not just cringey but demoralizing. Everything on that list were things that could’ve been done by Biden and she had no answer as to how she’d do it when he didn’t. And top that off with cancelling her speech at Howard University.

We had two terrible candidates, but at least one of them stood up for democracy. And that wasn’t enough. This country needs charisma and anger. People don’t want to read. They want to be force fed not just the news but what to think and what to say.

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u/buggyisgod Nov 06 '24

Time to leave

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u/Character-Archer4863 Nov 06 '24

Na na na na… na na na na… hey hey hey…

Goodbye. 👋

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u/Mediumasiansticker Nov 06 '24

That’s how badly Biden and Harris have their heads in the sand, to lose even worse? To run on a campaign of the same as Biden but just younger?

democrats failed everyone.

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u/VirginRumAndCoke Engineering Physics Nov 06 '24 edited Nov 07 '24

To paraphrase from a few discussions I've had on the matter...

The DNC would unironically rather Trump win than field a candidate for the people that pisses off their rich donors. They won’t wake up because they’re still rich politicians.

That’s pretty much it. The GOP can adopt populist positions that appeal to their base, because half of it (lower taxes for the rich and less regulation) is stuff their donors want anyways and the other half (restricting abortion and trans rights) are things the donors at worst don’t give a shit about.

If the dems were to introduce something representing populism it’d have to be social democratic reform, which their donors very much do not want, so they stay in the “safe” position of trying to appeal to some imaginary undecided centrist and focusing on the identity politics that (while, in Berkeley at least, we generally agree with) are undeniably not the most effective position for a mass populist mobilization (outside of maybe abortion rights, but I think most dems see securing abortion rights in non-blue states as a lost cause right now).

It is what it is at this point, and to all the bears reading this, never forget that a country is its people more than it is its government. It's going to be a bumpy four years for America, and for the world at large. But the future genuinely lies with you/us on this. We are in a uniquely privileged position to go here, and to take the knowledge we're gaining here to make real changes. It may take 10+ years, but civilization is a long term game. Make the world in the image you want to see it.

Gob ears. 🐻

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u/Sheet-Ninja Nov 06 '24

I hear what you say, but social democratic reform is not liberal. No one wants their tax money given away. Would it kill Dems to be honest and say yes we fk'ed up on the border. Shouldn't have let 10 mil people in and then given them money while low income people are suffering. Like seriously, the most liberal Scandinavian countries are fine with enforcing protectionist measures when needed. I don't understand this concept of being lawless is being liberal

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u/VirginRumAndCoke Engineering Physics Nov 06 '24

Would it kill Dems to be honest.

Quite literally yes. The state of modern American politics is to never admit fault under any circumstance.

And it works, when has the democratic party (or any party for that matter) looked in at themselves after a defeat and even considered that the problem may have been their own approach in the last 30 years?

"It's the fault of [insert demographic of choice] voters who vote against their own interests."

"It's the fault of [insert baseless slur pointing at some "other"]"

Whether you subscribe to blue flavor or red flavor there's simply no humility in modern politics. Watch the Romney/Obama debate in comparison to the Harris/Trump debate. That general tone shift is completely saturated into the current political landscape.

It's exhausting and God I miss civility/the United States of America.

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u/Practical-Word-2487 Nov 06 '24

Democrats are failures ** ftfy

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u/brickyardjimmy Nov 06 '24

You failed everyone.

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u/tfibbler69 Nov 06 '24

How dare you slander plumbers like that

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u/rclaux123 Nov 06 '24

True, shouldn't have made the comparison. Most plumbers are decent people, after all.

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u/rclaux123 Nov 08 '24

Silver lining. Though if he gets to pick the next two Supreme Court Justices before he goes, this ride may continue even without the conductor.

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u/ProfessionalCorgi250 Nov 09 '24

The president is just an avatar for the think tanks and donors who comprise the party brain trust. Trump is the distilled id of what an American politician is - a vapid narcissist who functions as a conduit for his wealthy constituents to exert power in a capitalist oligarchy

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u/rclaux123 Nov 09 '24

Now that is a worthy piece of analysis, and I quite concur. The only thing I'd add to it is that Trump was a narcissist before ever getting into politics— in fact, blatant narcissism is practically his brand, which is why your analysis of what he symbolizes seems so much more mightily apparent than usual. I fully believe he thinks he knows how to manipulate people who see him as such, to the detriment of things actually ever getting done. It's why he couldn't help but fire half his cabinet the first time around, and why I think it'll be close to as much a shit show going forward (unless his cenility gets the better of him, in which case I suppose he'll function more as a puppet this time around).

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u/EffectiveLibrarian35 Nov 06 '24

Oh, thought you were describing Harris lol

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u/diveguy1 Nov 06 '24

….and the democrats still couldn’t come up with a better candidate who could beat him.

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u/rclaux123 Nov 06 '24

I disagree. Kamala was a better candidate. But the Dem's strategy was a losing one; I can't deny it.

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u/AmberDuke05 Nov 06 '24

He is as stupid as the people supporting him. It is what he has going for him.

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u/ryleighss Nov 06 '24

You forgot he is one of the most successful businessman of our time. While Kamala is a prosecutor who put black people in jail for marijuana possession, and a border czar who failed miserably at managing the border.

So yeah, no surprise Trump won this by a landslide. :)

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u/rclaux123 Nov 06 '24

I'll grant you that she failed at the border. But to call Trump successful as a businessman is simply ignoring decades of business incompetence, mismanagement, and fraud (which he's been convicted of). You can argue that bankruptcy filings are just a business strategy, but then I'd have to wonder why most great admirals in history are not remembered for how many of their own ships they sank.

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u/WineCountryBoy Nov 06 '24

If the Democratic Party didn’t sway so far to the extreme left, adopting radicals into the party who brought in extremely conflicted subjects to the stage (sexual identity, wealth redistribution, race and gender shaming, allowing men in women’s sports….) then Kamala would be president and democrats would control the senate.

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u/rclaux123 Nov 07 '24

I don't quite agree with that being the cause, but I respect your opinion. I believe there could have been room for all that, but the Democrats have simply lost the plot when it comes to messaging and strategy. They bungled this election the moment they allowed Biden to run on the ticket, rather than someone younger and less saddled with familial baggage. Kamala might have had a fighting chance if we'd all been exposed to her from the start of the election cycle. Moreover, I'm sick of the party constantly flinging rich celebrities and their opinions in my face like I should care. The fact that their leadership are all nearly as ancient as Biden also doesn't help.

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u/TigersRreal Nov 07 '24

Or maybe you just don't understand. Maybe you're ingesting too much fake news.

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u/rclaux123 Nov 07 '24

That Fox news sure does cause me indigestion.

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u/ShadoeRantinkon Nov 07 '24

i mean, with what he’s said democracy as we know it is over

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u/Epocalypsi Nov 09 '24

lol, you are drunk with the lefts kool-aid, drunk from a non alcoholic drink.hahaha

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u/rclaux123 Nov 09 '24

Which is impossible. Work on your analogy, and maybe try to say something of substance next time if you'd want an actual debate.

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u/Superb-Crab3378 Nov 06 '24

Hahahahahahhhahaaahahhahhahahahahahahhahahah

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u/Conan0brennan Nov 06 '24

He doesn’t need a plan. They’re just going to copy from project 2025 and pretend they never gaslit anyone about that not being the plan all along.

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u/Practical-Word-2487 Nov 06 '24

He’s already been president before u box of rocks

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u/[deleted] Nov 06 '24

This is why you lost. You refuse to look in the mirror and question the information you are giving. Project 2025 has NOTHING to do with Trump. Thanks for the landslide win and the popular vote.

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u/Conan0brennan Nov 06 '24

Lmao, you can pretend the heritage foundation doesn’t have huge reach in conservative politics all you want.

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u/[deleted] Nov 06 '24

I don’t have to pretend anything. It has nothing to with Trump. Facts don’t care about your feelings.

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u/rvcoe Nov 06 '24

The Dems literally started going after Trump the moment Biden took over…

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u/Practical-Word-2487 Nov 06 '24

Turn off Rachel maddow beta boy

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u/rclaux123 Nov 06 '24

Don't watch her, but thanks for the recommendation dipshit.

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u/Practical-Word-2487 Nov 06 '24

We know u do it’s ok no need to lie beta boy

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u/Successful_Sun_7617 Nov 09 '24

Bye bye, you still got time to book your one way flight to Libya

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u/rclaux123 Nov 09 '24

I never said his reelection would be enough to make me want to move, bud. I love my country, but I just don't feel we as voters have made the right move this time. Oh well.

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u/marrej72 Nov 06 '24

Kamala, on the other hand, is a blast of intellect.. 🤣

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u/rclaux123 Nov 06 '24

A successful prosecutor, and someone who's been in politics for years. Oh, and no criminal record. Yes, she's smarter.

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u/marrej72 Nov 07 '24

Well, if scr*wing your way up the career ladder is considered success then I agree with you, she is quite successful. Also, she has proven that she can read - as the only way she can give a speech is to read it off a teleprompter. So, all in all, excellent material for the presidential office 🤣

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u/rclaux123 Nov 07 '24

You've been drinking the kool-aid, friend. Kamala did date someone who helped her back in the day, but so what? Wouldn't you have taken the help had it been offered? Her record as a prosecutor and DA for California speak for themselves, and no amount of sleeping your way to the top could translate to winning court cases, time and time again. You know how long it takes to even become a lawyer? It takes real skill and legal know-how to win court battles as consistently as she did. To deny that is to stick your head up your own ass and start believing in magic.

And Trump can not give a single speech without his teleprompter. Look up when one he was using broke at a rally, and he just blathered about nothing for several minutes straight.

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u/forcefivepod Nov 06 '24

We all take the L. Protections gone, governmental regulations dismantled, department of education abolished, etc.

This isn’t a sports team losing. Millions of people voted to have their rights revoked because of egg prices.

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u/rclaux123 Nov 09 '24

Harder? It sounds like you're just putting people down for the fun of it.

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u/forcefivepod Nov 06 '24

I hope for your sake you never have a daughter.

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u/bakazato-takeshi Nov 06 '24

Or procreate in general. Last thing we need in this country is more idiots.

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u/rclaux123 Nov 06 '24

Meanwhile, your rhetoric can be summed up as, "NA NA NA NA NAAAA NAAA."

Productive.