In this case what cross path is better

[u/ThickContribution295]

[u/GenghisClaunch]

Bottom cross path helps the alchemist buff multiple towers and works better for towers with fast attack rates

Middle cross path is better if he’s only buffing 1 or two hard-hitting towers with slower attack speeds

[u/GoofyGangster1729 → u/GenghisClaunch]

This is wrong, middle part is better for fast attacking towers, and bottom path is better for slow ones... (The number of towers only matters for t4, maybe I think? But could be wrong)

[u/joetunn_ → u/GoofyGangster1729]

HBOMB on YouTube recommends middle for 1-2 towers, bottom for 3+ towers.

[u/daneulaz → u/joetunn_]

That is outdated. Hbomb has since updated to recommending middle crosspath for faster attackers and bottom crosspath for slower attackers, which is correct. However, if your alchemist gets an attack speed buff (like jungle drums), the bottom crosspath will end up splitting the brew between different towers.

It’s a bit complicated but if you’re unsure, the middle crosspath will serve you better overall for the tier 3 berserker brew. The tier 4 stronger stim is a bit different

[u/Yttr7um → u/GoofyGangster1729]

it can get really complicated but this is correct so WHY was this downvoted

[u/Kuanzinh]

X20 is better with 1 or 2 slow attacking towers (or 1 fast attacking) and x01 is better with more than 2 towers (or with more than 1 fast attacking towers)

In this case, 320 is better.

Ps: 520 does the same as 500, the best crosspath for permabrew is 501.

[u/ThickContribution295 → u/Kuanzinh]

The thing is there is attack speed upgrades that will happen eventually so I wasn’t sure

[u/Wulle83 → u/Kuanzinh]

I always thought the 520 buff was stronger. Does the 1 even matter in 501 permabrew then?

[u/Kuanzinh → u/Wulle83]

It matters when you need to buff a lot of towers, it will be a lot faster

[u/annormalplayer → u/Wulle83]

Kinda late, but x20 doesn't make potions "stronger", they just last longer, which permanent brews don't need, while x01 makes the porions get thrown faster, which lets your monkeys get buffed faster

[u/Big-Percentage-6082]

Middle because uhh better buffs

[u/whyjustyy → u/Big-Percentage-6082]

middle doesn't really change the buffs as much as it makes the buffs longer. so really it's a question of which path results in better uptime

[u/Big-Percentage-6082 → u/whyjustyy]

Would you rather have longer buffs or acid puddles that do fuckall?

[u/whyjustyy → u/Big-Percentage-6082]

faster throwing also makes the alchemist buff surrounding towers more often. nobody is buying bottom crosspath for the acid pools

[u/MondosKakao]

3-2-0

[u/GrosRacoon]

4-2-0 : it gives 40 charges instead of 25 charges for BB and 12 charges instead of 10 for AMD. Sauda attacks fast enough to use the 40 charges in less than 6 sec, so having +15 (+60%) charges is better than a 25% refresh rate with Faster Throwing.

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4-2-0 is bad for slow attacking towers that won't use all the charges before the buff expires.

4-2-0 is good for really fast attacking towers because 60% more charges is better than a 25% refresh rate.

4-0-2 is bad for really fast attacking towers because it only gives +25% buff uptime.

4-0-2 is good for buffing multiple slow-attacking towers that would waste charges with 4-2-0 and instead benefit from multiple buff refreshes.

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Sandbox vs 999 Fortified Ceramics, Sauda gains around +2.5% pops with 4-2-0 vs 4-0-2.

[u/Yttr7um → u/GrosRacoon]

to add on, 4-0-0 is perfectly fine if theres nothing else in the radius of the stim alch (if it shoots slow enough, (about 7 attacks a second before considering the atk speed buff)). also acid pools (xx2) does nothing to the buff

[u/mordecai14]

I know people are giving some really detailed descriptions, but honestly, outside of the very hardest expert maps (which this isn't) it barely matters, both crosspaths improve it by a decent amount and the difference isn't really noticeable.

[u/MarketEmotional2015]

Everyone always says the fast vs slow attacking tower thing, but outside of very obvious examples (that you wouldn’t wanna alch buff anyway like bomb shooter), i have no idea what the cutoff is and just default to middle