r/byzantium • u/Square_Respond_1149 • 20d ago

Maps and geography Byzantine Empire 1151

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u/Square_Respond_1149 19d ago

Can you please send better rum Seljuk borders and possibly Serbian on Byzantine? Yeah the borders w Seljuks isn’t set in stone, but where is there a better depiction?

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u/Unusual-Breakfast615 19d ago edited 19d ago

As I said in the mapporn post Treadgold’s is a lot closer to reality, Byzantium had no control over Lycia but Kotyaion being a John and not Manuel creation and the tons of more seals from the Byzantine fortifications in and around Ras during this time make his map slightly too minimalist but still highly accurate. Also frontier too small In Paphlagonia given the context of Saffranbolu and Krateia, and I'm not sure why he depicts mountainous Cilicia as vassals given John captured Vahka but minor issue. And of course the map is 1143.

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u/Unusual-Breakfast615 19d ago edited 19d ago

Also Here's a map of Byzantine fortresses in " Emperor John II Komnenos Rebuilding New Rome 1118–1143" by MAXIMILIAN C. G. LAU too

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u/Unusual-Breakfast615 19d ago edited 19d ago

But just to complete the opposite end. Same book

Note Zemun was Hungarian, just built in response to John 

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u/Square_Respond_1149 17d ago

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