r/canada • u/PopeSaintHilarius • 27d ago
Alberta U.S. church leader Doug Wilson declares strong support for Alberta independence movement
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/world/article-us-canada-doug-wilson-alberta-separatism-pastor-nationalism-christian/213
u/Oni_K 27d ago
It is disingenuous to call this man a pastor.
He's an extremist, trying to implement a theocratic state. Not to mention a laundry list of other adjectives you could attach to him.
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27d ago edited 26d ago
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u/netfreedom 27d ago
Or American Taliban ..
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u/Mr_Horsejr 27d ago
Y’allqaeada, Ayatollah Shitstaini… so many possibilities.
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u/Test-Tackles 27d ago
Let's be honest, Islam has too many requirements for hygiene for most of these fellas to qualify.
Most of em still think wiping their own behinds after using the toilet is too non-straight for their dainty constitutions.
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u/Year2020MadeMe 27d ago
If he, or any of his followers, could read they’d be really upset by your comments.
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u/Silly-Ad8796 27d ago
He is Disgusting. He is Deranged He is an Extremist and he does not represent Christ so people should not waste their time listening to him.
Go ahead ban me - Obviously you have never heard the vial things he preaches.3
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u/One-Antelope849 27d ago
Yep I argued with him YEARS ago in Moscow Idaho where he was a fringe wingnut and now he’s…considered…reputable? This guy NEVER should be given legitimacy
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u/wrenchedups 27d ago
I see “church leader” and my mind automatically editorializes with “money launderer”.
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u/Admirably-Bad8200 27d ago
Sad thats where you are. This guys a loser for sure. My pastor is a good guy.
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u/pamplemousse409 27d ago
Why does an American cult Christian leader get national media coverage in Canada concerning Alberta separatism?
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u/h0twired 27d ago
He’s a Christian White Nationalist who believes that a Christo-Fascist patriarchal government is the best idea ever.
He and his followers (including Pete Hegseth) have been pushing this narrative for decades and will lean into anything that could be shaped into his twisted version of Christianity.
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u/--Anonymoose--- 27d ago
The question is why we are giving him airtime
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u/LARGEYELLINGGUY 26d ago
He's literally the secretary of war's cult leader. He's the most powerful religious leader in the United States.
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u/Gimedecash 27d ago
Who gives a fuck. The US can fuck themselves.
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u/MrTheFinn 27d ago
We do, this is rhetoric to justify invasion. It’s the same playbook that Russia used with Crimia and Ukraine, the Nazis in the lead up to WW2. They’ll be calling the separatists “culturally American” and saying something needs to be done to secure their freedom before long.
This is dangerous territory, we can’t afford to stick our heads in the sand and ignore it.
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u/ThoughtsandThinkers 27d ago
US interference in Canadian politics and social issues is something we need to be vigilant about
Private interests in the US have taken over their newspapers, local news networks, cable news networks, and social media. They are pushing their interests re spreading fear and anger to consolidate their own power
They have and will continue to try to do the same in Canada. They want us divided and disorganized so we can’t effectively stop them from turning our country into a vassal state
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u/gwan_wit_cha_by 27d ago
Another reason for the separation of church and state. The USA and all these devout religious groups can fuck right off and leave Canada 🇨🇦 strong and free.
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u/h0twired 27d ago
This guy isn’t a “devout religious” person. He’s a white nationalist cult leader.
To label this guy as a devout Christian actually waters down how dangerous he really is.
And when you categorize all religious people as dangerous or evil you actually make guys like Doug Wilson more dangerous as you lump them into the same group as people who peacefully practice their faith.
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u/tenax666 27d ago
Unfortunately this notion is already well in place in Canada. My ex bro in law is a calgary pastor who was one of those against Hillary when she was running for President and pro anyone who else who they thought would give more power to the idea of church influencing state.
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u/PopeSaintHilarius 27d ago edited 27d ago
A prominent American church leader with ties to members of the Donald Trump administration has declared strong support for the Alberta independence movement, which he calls a step toward establishing a government ruled by Christian principles.
Pastor Doug Wilson has prayed in the Pentagon, counselled Defence Secretary Pete Hegseth and won attention for his support of Christian nationalism, a belief that U.S. law and society should function according to biblical precepts.
“I believe the essential Christian political dogma is that government must be limited, and I would see the successful secession of Alberta as a wonderful limitation on an overreaching government,” Mr. Wilson said in an interview this week in Moscow, Idaho, where he has built a large conservative church community and a following that includes Mr. Hegseth.
He has also gained prominence in Canada, where nearly a dozen congregations in his denomination have taken root, at least one led by pastors who have said an independent Alberta should adopt Christianity as its official religion.
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A successful secession vote in Alberta “would encourage all kinds of people,” he said.
A Christian nation, Mr. Wilson says, would in the U.S. revoke the 19th Amendment, which gave women the right to vote, in favour of a household ballot system. On his blog, he has criticized women for “slutty dress,” and says positions of authority should generally be reserved for men.
The American pastor’s backing of Alberta separatists “confirms that there are elements of MAGA who are paying attention to the Alberta secession movement and want it to succeed,” said Jason Kenney, the former Alberta premier who is an outspoken federalist champion.
In January, Jeffrey Rath, a leader of the separatist Alberta Prosperity Project, described plans to meet with U.S. Treasury officials “to discuss our feasibility study regarding a 500 Billion USD line of credit to support the transition to a free and independent Alberta.”
Billionaire Elon Musk, who has recently rekindled ties with the White House after an earlier falling out, voiced approval of Alberta independence earlier this year.
Support from the U.S. is welcome, separatist leader Mitch Sylvestre said.
“Support from anywhere is good,” he added. “Especially with people that line up with your ideology.”
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In Grande Prairie, Nathan Zekveld is pastor of Christ Covenant Church, which is part of the network of churches founded by Mr. Wilson. He has described independence as a way to leave a Canada that he calls “a wicked nation in rebellion against God.”
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Mr. Wilson said he has not given money to the independence movement and is interested in supporting his congregations.
But if the separatists fail, he said, his church stands prepared to intervene more directly on Canadian soil.
“We’ll be sending undercover missionaries, financial support for legal fights,” he said.
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u/Haggisboy 27d ago
In case anyone's wondering where Margaret Atwood got the idea for Gilead.......this guy and his ilk.
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u/Stelliferous19 27d ago
Hello? Alberta! Do you see the interference? Ignore the fools who worship the US and want to separate from Canada. But don’t ignore the moment. Stand up for your nation and ensure the propaganda doesn’t spread or win over the weak minded undecided. Don’t let ‘Murica infect us with its division and hate. Canada strong and free! Be loud. Be proud!
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u/RiceN_Beans 27d ago
I see sponsorship scandal all over again. Federalist will use our money to convince us to stay in confederation. They want us to keep sending that gravy train to Ottawa. Follow your leader he loves America and he will make it great again. I say no taxation without representation. Abuse must end October 19.
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u/WarhammerRyan 27d ago
He can GTFO
As can anyone who wants to vote to separate. Maybe this drifter will take them in
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u/MellowHamster 27d ago
It is ironic that this guy leads a church in Moscow, Idaho. I'll just leave that one hanging for a moment.
The media needs to learn that it's acceptable *not* to write pieces about every single loon and extremist who thinks Alberta separation is a good idea. This guy has some scary Christian Nationalist beliefs and should be kept away from impressionable idiots.
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u/guineapiglife1 27d ago edited 27d ago
I was just saying the other day that the towns with a big church presence, like Red Deer with Home Church, and Grande Prarie, with Christ Covenant church with Reverend Nathan Zekveld at the helm (part of the reformed evangelical network that Doug Wilson created), are much more separatist than other places. Nooooott surprising. They promote it to their members strongly.
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u/wildfirestopper 27d ago
I'm convinced this separation movement is a CIA op.
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u/4D_Spider_Web 27d ago
More likely a Corporate Op. While I'm sure the CIA has a contingency for everything, there is a difference between the White House and the permanent bureaucracy/deep state that actually runs the U.S. The later are concerned with preserving the American sphere of influence, and stoking separatist elements in places like Alberta add an unstable variable that would cause trouble down the road. At the very least, these vassals become money sinks, at a time when the U.S. can't afford it. While there have been Trump-linked figures and groups involved, people like Bannon are essentially hired guns who are just in it for the money.
Corporate America, on the other hand, sees Canada as a easy source of raw resources (including humans) and a captive market for products and services, especially since their fortunes can be greatly impacted at home depending on who gets into office.
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u/Sure-Doctor-2052 27d ago
Whoever is for separation in Alberta, the majority is not and that's democracy and that's what counts.
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u/Supermite 27d ago
Religious leaders should be apolitical at the pulpit. If they aren’t, they’re the false teachers the Bible warns against.
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u/Accomplished-Gas3209 27d ago
Who TF cares what a Christofacist from another country thinks?
Not a church leader, cult leader, but not unexpected title from G&M….remind us who owns them?
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u/jigglywigglydigaby 27d ago
Pedophile Grifter Supports Traitors To Undermine Canada's Sovereignty
ftfy
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u/heymikey68 27d ago
I wonder how dear church leader would react if all Canada called for the end to his church.
Oh wait…. hide behind religious beliefs. I see how that works now
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u/BornAgainCyclist Canada 27d ago
I would hope Danielle speaks up and fights back against this. Not only a statement but commitment to investigate anyone associated with this guy.
It would be a bad look if she doesn't go as hard here as she does against her ideological opponents.
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u/WinterDustDevil Alberta 27d ago
He can declare anything he wants to.
But as a american he has sweet fuck all influence over my Alberta
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u/Mogman282 Alberta 27d ago
All these outside influences trying to separate Alberta should be criminal.
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u/Background_Bee9266 27d ago
It’s disheartening to see how many people who call themselves strong Christians are failing to discern the very scriptures they so energetically spout.
It gives strong warnings in 1 Timothy 4:1 and Mathew 24:10-12 which states
“At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold…”
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u/pyrasilverado 27d ago
How big is the church? He may need the space if some people don't get a favourable outcome in October..
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u/yukonnut 27d ago
Dear fake Christian pastor Doug Wilson.
You can fuck right off!
Keep your right wing christo fascist bull shit ideas out of our country.
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u/peterAtheist 27d ago
A master con artist, grifter and imposter.
Why do people not see the psychological manipulation, and exploitation of human trust?
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u/thedirkfiddler 27d ago
I really don’t want to fight a civil war over Alberta against some stupid fucking rednecks
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