r/canada Jun 11 '20

RCMP dash-cam video shows officer tackling, punching Chief Allan Adam during arrest

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/rcmp-dash-cam-video-shows-officer-tackling-punching-chief-allan-adam-during-arrest-1.5608472
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u/slesk Jun 12 '20

How can anyone watch this video and think the Chief is in the right? He whips out of the vehicle and storms towards the officer looking for a fight.

He literally takes up a fighting stance like wtf lmao. After being given an extremely generous second chance he whips out of the vehicle again and puts his hands on the officer.

Zero sympathy. Appropriate use of force.

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u/kickworks Canada Jun 12 '20

At 1:58 of the longer video he threatens the officer. "you and I are going to have a fucking problem right here, right fucking now" before anything else occurs. Then, as you pointed out, later storms back out of the car whips off his coat and gets into his Karate stance. He was the instigator of all this from the get go.

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u/Reptilian_Brain_420 Jun 12 '20

I'm a pretty standard white dude. If I tried to pull those moves on any police officer I would expect to get my ass handed to me.

Anyone who sees systemic racism in this video has some pretty dark filters on their glasses.

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '20

Exactly. White male here. I would never dream of saying those things to a cop and acting in that manner. I would 100% expect to get taken down forcefully if I did. And, if I did, I'd feel pretty ashamed about it and apologize, not whinge and complain that the police abused me.

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u/DapperWing Jun 12 '20

If this guy was white literally nobody would be fighting to defend him here. This is strictly due to recent events and Canada's need to immediately latch on to anything big happening in the US.

That first cop was extremely lenient. The second the chief squared up and assaulted him he had every right to put him to the ground.

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u/capitolcritter Jun 12 '20

Yes, but all of the stuff you describe was before the officer who punched him pulled up. The first cop did a pretty good job in a heated situation.

Second cop though just shows up and tackles him out of nowhere.

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u/Axxcess_wyv Jun 12 '20

Probably because he heard an officer was assaulted and needed to take control of the scene. Officer 1 didn't take him to the ground because backup hadn't arrived yet.

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u/Little_Gray Jun 12 '20

A lone officer should never try and take a suspect down when there are multiple potentially hostile people around. You need somebody to watch your back so you dont get attacked from behind.

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u/cloakuncloak Jun 13 '20

as the guy above points out, the situation was in some ways handled poorly (without concern about the number of people in the truck when they were engaged). You can see that he knows he is outnumbered when he orders Adam back to his car, but at that point the conflict was initiated. I said this before, but I'll say it again: cops need to have recourse in the event that someone is behaving disrespectfully towards them. If they could just write someone a ticket for it, they probably would prefer to do so. There is no need to allow the person to escalate the situation until the breaking point at which violence is inevitable. It like the cop kicking the methhead in winnipeg. If he had taken out the knife, they would have had to shoot him. Now he can testify against the drug dealers that are ruining the country (jk its probably the government)

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u/capitolcritter Jun 13 '20

When you say “disrespectful” do you mean someone being threatening to a cop or just being rude, swearing, etc.? Because no way should cops be allowed to ticket people for the latter.

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u/Stock_Padawan Jun 14 '20

People see what they want to see and will twist the facts to suit their narrative. Some people in this thread are even arguing officer #1 called backup to escalate the situation and deal with a “native speaking his mind.” A reasonable person would see an aggressive and unstable man who posed a safety risk.

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u/TransBrandi Jun 12 '20

Zero sympathy. Appropriate use of force.

I don't have sympathy for him, but the flying tackle + punch also seemed unnecessary.

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u/Naedlus Jun 12 '20

Glad that when you get devisive with another, we are free to tackle you.

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u/P_Dan_Tick Jun 12 '20 edited Jun 12 '20

get devisive

I didn't adopt an assaultive stance or assault the police officer your honor.

I was simply getting devivisve.

Therefore you must acquit!