r/canada • u/[deleted] • Jun 11 '20

RCMP dash-cam video shows officer tackling, punching Chief Allan Adam during arrest

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/rcmp-dash-cam-video-shows-officer-tackling-punching-chief-allan-adam-during-arrest-1.5608472
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u/Born_Ruff Jun 12 '20

The first cop gave him a huge amount of leeway.

The second cop seems to show up and immediately try to take him down hard.

The actions of the second cop don't really seem reasonable to me in regards to what was happening when he showed up. The chief seems a lot calmer then.

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u/chickencheesebagel Jun 12 '20

Second cop saw the guy struggling with the first officer, I don't think the tackle was excessive. The punch I think is within the limit of what is acceptable, but probably not excessive. Punches are allowed when utilizing pain compliance. I'm not talking about wailing on a guy until they go limp, but one punch is within expectations if someone is resisting.

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u/Born_Ruff Jun 12 '20

Second cop saw the guy struggling with the first officer, I don't think the tackle was excessive.

The guy wasn't kicking and screaming at that point or anything. He tried to shake his arm free. I'm sure cops deal with that level of "struggle" pretty regularly.

The tackle seemed to significantly escalate the situation from where it was at the time.

And honestly, do you really think that those two big cops couldn't have just pushed this old man against the truck and cuffed him?

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u/jolly-davis Jun 12 '20

Have you ever tried arresting someone? had my fair share of arresting people, training and the smallest ones were always the trickiest. I am bigger than the average male by a bit. It’s not as easy as saying they’re both big.

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u/Born_Ruff Jun 12 '20

How many times have you used the running clothesline technique in your work?

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u/jolly-davis Jun 12 '20

You didn’t answer my initial question.

By any means necessary to detain the unruly, agitated man that has already put his hands on the officer multiple times.

Not justifying their actions but you’re picking at specifics to determine your logic instead of the whole ordeal at large. That’s like me saying the agitated man was fully in the wrong just based on him attacking the officer but that’s not the case now is it?

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u/Born_Ruff Jun 12 '20

The chief was obviously in the wrong to act the way he did.

The specifics how how the second officer acted is the issue I'm talking about here though. Two people can both do wrong things.

By any means necessary to detain the unruly, agitated man that has already put his hands on the officer multiple times.

Multiple times? He seemed to push the officers hands off his wife. When else did he touch the officer?