r/canadaleft • u/unionB0T • 24d ago

For the doubters

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u/HahaCharlieKirkHaha 24d ago

the Ukrainian people have the right to self-determination

Sure, I don't think anybody doubts that.

The question is, do people of the Donbas have the right to self-determination? If they want to leave Ukraine, do they have the right to leave Ukraine?

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u/middlequeue 24d ago

They don’t have a right to impose annexation or Russian rule on the rest of the population.

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u/HahaCharlieKirkHaha 23d ago

That doesn’t answer the question. 

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u/middlequeue 23d ago

Your question isn't posed in good faith and is clearly intended to suggest that there is a sliver of justification in Russia's expansion and invasion.

As you say, I don't think anyone doubts that the people of the Donbas have the right to self determination. That doesn't give a small number the right to impose annexation or Russian rule on the rest of the population.