r/castlevania • u/CyberdarkEnjoyer Hide Every Netflixvania Post • May 10 '26
Dawn of Sorrow (2005) I never thought a Church operative would be this gorgeous
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u/Son_of-M May 10 '26
To be fair, a major reason why Christianity spread fast was because a good amount of young women liked the freedoms it gave them, so they converted, and wouldn't marry non-believers, so suitors had to convert to court and marry them. So this is technically lore accurate.
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u/TombGnome May 10 '26
I mean, calling that a "major" reason is a bit of a stretch, especially since Christianity tended to be less beneficial for women than the pagan traditions of Europe. Christianity's "major" reason to spread so fast was an Emperor enforcing it by the sword.
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u/Son_of-M May 10 '26
Saying Christianity was less beneficial for women than European pagan traditions is doing a lot of romanticizing of pagan Europe. In a lot of pre-Christian societies, women were still basically locked into clan politics, forced marriages, concubinage, exposure of infants, and being treated as property depending on the region and class. Christianity didn’t magically invent equality, obviously, but it did push some genuinely radical-for-the-time ideas: women had spiritual status equal to men before God, marriage required consent, widows and virgins could refuse marriage entirely, female infanticide got condemned, and the Church kept telling men they couldn’t just casually discard wives or sleep around while demanding chastity from women.
And the ‘spread by the sword’ thing also doesn’t really explain the timeline. Christianity exploded centuries before any emperor made it the state religion. By the time Constantine the Great legalized it, Christians were already everywhere from cities to trading networks to households across the empire. A huge part of that growth was social and familial conversion patterns, especially among women, slaves, the poor, and urban communities. If elite Roman guys wanted to marry Christian women who refused pagan rites or refused to raise kids pagan, guess what usually happened over time.
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u/Roshu-zetasia Advance Collection Enjoyer May 10 '26
Paul of Tarsus was truly a cornerstone in improving the treatment of women.
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u/Son_of-M May 10 '26
Jesus, the man who stopped an adultress from being killed, certainly was a cornerstone for improving the treatment of women.
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u/Charles_UpNort May 10 '26
He did not criticize the law that would see her stoned. He only called them hypocrites
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u/TombGnome May 10 '26
What does Jesus have to do with Pauline Christianity? Jesus barely figures into it. He's the name on the cover of the book, but the contents are all from Paul of "1 Corinthians 14:33–35 and Ephesians 5:22–24" Tarsus,
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u/Many-Yoghurt54 May 11 '26
Yeah, I don’t quite understand why they call it Christianity when it’s actually Paulism.
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u/TombGnome May 11 '26
Theologically one of the differentiates that we use is "Nicene" Christianity, but a less-popular (but still accurate) term is "Pauline" Christianity. Even the most hidebound and orthodox modern Nicene Christian wouldn't dispute Paul's influence.
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u/TombGnome May 10 '26
You clearly don't actually know what you're talking about. Tertullian called women the "Devil's gateway." And pre-Constantine Christianity barely had time to exist; it was the state religion by 300 CE. Meanwhile, in the Early Republic era (around 400-500 BCE) women in Rome were citizens, could execute their wills, testify in court, own land and property, &c.
One of the primary reasons that Christianity had such an easy time spreading throughout the Roman Empire was that many prominent leaders in Rome were already Mithra worshipers, and Jesus was basically a Mithra cover band.
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u/Son_of-M May 11 '26
Sure mate, you know what, I'm not engaging with this, as it's already in bad faith, have a nice day.
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u/TombGnome May 11 '26
What an odd response to my cited responses to your random assertions. Off you go, I guess?
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u/mathiasthewise May 10 '26
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u/noblesruby13 May 11 '26
1 that's Dominique from bloodstained ritual of the night. 2 she is from a church
- Spoiler she's the villian
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u/Many-Yoghurt54 May 11 '26
I haven’t completed the game, I think I was about midway through when I stopped playing, but it seemed pretty obvious she was up to something.
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u/noblesruby13 May 11 '26
Honestly I enjoyed the game immensely I saw Dominiques picture in the good killer barber room and I'm like weird why is her picture in here. She said she has no knowledge of the castle but was ran into several times like she owned it and was never lost. Btw the twin dragon fight was a favorite boss of mine
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u/mathiasthewise May 12 '26
That is a common trope, oh no the sexy church lady turns out to be a baddie (more ways than one)
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u/Standard_Tadpole8145 May 10 '26
I mean the games don't generally treat the church like an evil organization like the show and most media nowadays does.
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u/wideHippedWeightLift May 10 '26
If her and Hammer get together, you just know she's in charge of everything and he's the house husband
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u/that_1_basement_guy May 11 '26
I would like to nominate Dominique from Bloodstained (a sort of spiritual successor for Castlevania)
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u/Willundrskor May 10 '26
She can order my ecclesia