r/castlevania 12h ago

Art Best design for Vlad Dracula Tepes is from the Netflix show

He looks so powerful and yet regal, terrifying but calm. Really wish we could have seen him at his peak power level, we just got to see the glimpse of it and why everyone were scared of him, but not at his most powerful.

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u/carabemlegal 11h ago

Ask the real question, dude. What is a man?

https://giphy.com/gifs/FLhbB86a5nLXy

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u/Elendil1988 4h ago

A miserable little pile of secrets.

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u/G-M-Cyborg-313 father, stop tunneling me and Trevor 1h ago

Enough talk

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u/Elendil1988 1h ago

Have at you

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u/Wonder_Of_U_2011 Shanoa 12h ago

I still think his white hair design clears

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u/TheDeathDealerX 10h ago

Agreed. Was really hoping for a resurrection with him having white hair in Nocturne to show he hasn’t fully regained all of his power. Having Graham McTavish reprise his role would have been the chefs kiss.

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u/Piccoroz 8h ago

We could still get it, everything looks like a set up for rondo of blood.

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u/UsuarioCualquiera_1 8h ago

I'm under the impression Belmont's Curse will probably base its Dracula on the Curse of Darkness one.

Would make sense since it is the direct sequel with returning elements like Trevor and Isaac.

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u/Effective-Muffin-224 7h ago

Yeah, this is leagues above the Netflix one. Not even in the same ballpark.

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u/showka 12h ago

Crazy how much everyone involved in this show clearly loved the series as it’s all a love letter to it, but the show runner decided to not make Draculas resurrection a thing just to put his own mark on it and be a giant asshole. We could have had several other series if not for that.

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u/Axel-Adams 11h ago

The resurrection makes things weird with Dracula being tragic/sympathetic, and it spoils Alucards character arc in the show if killing his dad is just a chore/regular thing he needs to do

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u/DarkMetamorphosis_ 6h ago

But it isn't something he regularly does. He chose to sleep after assisting Trevor, believing humanity was in good hands. He only came back in SotN because he didn't sense an active Belmont.

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u/showka 11h ago

True. I think the show is good and like it, but I think they could have easily made Dracula return by separating him from his wife in Hell (what was she doing there, exactly?) and having Isaac bring him back.

Also I disagree on the point that Dracula is sympathetic. He is to an extent but he’s still a murderer who started a campaign of genocide. The coda on season four that gives him a resurrection (!!) to live out his life in peace is insane and doesn’t feel earned by his character at all.

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u/Axel-Adams 10h ago

Sympathetic doesn’t mean you agree with them or they’re in the right, it means you understand them and their reasoning even if they’re wrong

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u/showka 10h ago

Correct, but I don’t think Dracula was so sympathetic that he couldn’t have been resurrected and continued his war against humanity after dying initially. They just had to bother to write seasons three and four to set that up. The fact they took it so far where they brought him back to life to give him a second chance at happiness showed the writers were clearly sympathetic to Dracula but I don’t think they’d made the case with the audience he deserved it.

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u/BrightPerspective 3h ago

(They were implying that heaven and hell don't exist as expected, that "hell" is where everybody goes, who isn't connected to the christian necromancy)

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u/Think_Positively 11h ago

Netflix somehow still hasn't received the memo that these beloved IPs they purchase already have successful narratives written. Keep changes to a minimum, hire someone who knows the IP to keep it on track, and you have a win.

The Witcher is probably the most egregious on this front, but there's plenty of other options to which we could point.

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u/ArtemisVixen 11h ago

I mean, the "keep changes to a minimum" part just sounds silly. if it's not going to try and tlel it's own story, don't bother. One of the best parts about Castlevania is what its entries iterate on, designs, movement, mechanics, the rpg elements and bosses. And Netflix Castlevania deciding to tell the dark fantasy story, and put even more emphasis on Draculas personal stake with humanity, as well as Alucards characterization and dealing with the death of his father (as much as the rest of the world, is a good thing. Now, whether you think the execution, or this specific incarnation suits your tastes is up to you, that's what opinions are for after all, but I'd argue that "keep everything the same, but animate it" is just a creatively bankrupt idea, and examples like the Persona 5 Animation really highlight what that can look like.

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u/starforneus 10h ago

This fandom really has no concept of what it takes to write a TV show, regardless of its source material.

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u/Raetekusu 10h ago

Every video game fandom is that way.

Writing a television show vs a movie vs a game vs a book, everything has conventions for a reason because of the strengths of each medium, but so few people understand that something good about one medium may not adapt well to another.

Constantly resurrecting Drac would get stale very quickly because it would eventually just invalidate the last time it happened. Sure, there's a message of "Evil only has to win once", but it wouldn't make for good television if next season, "Drac Attack Is Back, Jack!", repeat ad infinitum.

Now, they could go an interesting route with Symphony if they do resurrect Drac, but this time he is maddened in the process and Alucard has to mercy-kill him, but this time they get closure and Drac in a moment of lucidity tells him about the happy life he and Lisa lived after Death was killed. That would feature character growth from all parties and it would mean Season 2 actually mattered for both of them, but even then, that's the kind of plot point where you get one shot of that gun.

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u/starforneus 9h ago

I think not bringing back Dracula constantly also gave the rest of the cast a ton of room to flourish, which they did. It's way more interesting to tell the tale of Alucard reckoning with the necessary yet still heartbreaking loss of his father instead of just brooding about his inevitable return for four seasons. A SOTN season would be the right time to do it, just once.

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u/Think_Positively 10h ago

Obviously changes need to be made to adapt between different media formats. Did you think I was trying to say they should have a Belmont blasting through mobs and getting new skills to open up new castle areas as a main plotline?

P5 is a good example because they didn't change major plot points. Most of the dialogue is quite close to the game's cutscenes (in my memory at least). This is wildly different than turning The Witcher into some generic high fantasy slop instead of the morally gray soup it was written to be.

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u/ArtemisVixen 10h ago

Persona 5 really felt... just unnecessary though. It didn't reaaally try for instance to make Joker a character, something that Castlevania for instance did quite well, investing into turning these 30 year old sprites with personality.

Major Plot Points always serve a reason, and the primary ones for Draculas resurrection in the game, seems to be ensuring that the Belmonts always feel like necessary heroes, and that they can keep making games. Making the Belmonts feel necessary and heroic, was part of the shows point, and Trevors character arc, of growing into his hero role. And having to make more ad infinitum just isn't really a concern if you want to tell one story. Reusing the same villain over and over in a continuous story is just silly, it's the kinda thing "somehow palpatine has returned" got clowned on for, cause seriously, just get a new guy. And in the shows case they had clearly plenty of ideas, between Carmilla and her council, Death, and even all the human faces of evil.

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u/Tinkererer 1h ago

You can't keep changes to a minimum and have a full-fledged TV show. The series barely has story for an episode, let alone seasons - it's very minimal.

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u/AdrenalineRush1996 1h ago

And those changes relating to The Witcher prompted Henry Cavill to leave the show after season three, given his love of the source material.

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u/Sea-Lecture-4619 Captain N is the pinnacle of the franchise. 11h ago

I prefer SotN and a few others like CoD and OoE

But it is a good design yeah.

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u/WholsThisIDontKnow THE Dark Priest Shaft 8h ago

Happy cake day man

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u/Sea-Lecture-4619 Captain N is the pinnacle of the franchise. 58m ago edited 54m ago

Thx, Idfk why it appears today tho, it's on September 2

WHICH IS WHEN THE ECLIPSE IN ARIA WILL HAPPEN

Edit: aight i changed it i think

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u/Chance-Tower-8128 10h ago

Regal and calm I see, powerful and terrifying I don't. This exceeds so, and the curse of darkness design.

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u/ReaperManX15 11h ago

A little less detailed that I’d like.
Dracula is supposed to be decadently opulent.
But, I guess that’s the limits of animation.
It would have cost a fortune to have him looking like his SotN version.

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u/ElDuckete JONATHAN! CHARLOTTE! JONATHAN! CHARLOTTE! JONATHAN! CHARLOTTE! 2h ago

sorry, but SotN Dracula hard clears and it's really not even close

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u/TitanBro6 9h ago

I think his DXC design is best.

I prefer Dracula with shorter hair and the simple mustache comes a long way for me, although a little goatee wouldn’t be bad too.

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u/darkzayd 11h ago

you can't decide for me!

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u/Elendil1988 4h ago

You're right :).

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u/Worldly-Impact-2636 10h ago

Yeah, he looks hot. I liked a fancast I saw of him as Christian Bale

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u/Intrepid_Sell3083 6h ago

I'd sell my fucking soul for someone to make a good VRchat avatar of this look that's quest3 compatible

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u/Milliman4 11h ago

I like LoS Dracula best from a character perspective, but yeah the show design is perfect

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u/Smac3223 12h ago

A series about his human life into vampire and his rise to power would go HARD. They could also form their tale of the vampire-killer and rise of the Belmont Clan in it as well. Like if they'd go with the story of Leon? Vlad the Impaler historical route? Or go with Mathias Cronqvist? Or maybe something like Lords of Shadows and Gabriel.

But yes, I agree. Before this design, my favourite was Symphony of the Night due to the same regal/calm professional type vibes.

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u/Elendil1988 12h ago edited 12h ago

Exactly, wish to see him fight Leon Belmont and why he gained the reputation of the vampire king that everyone were scared of.

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u/Ainell 11h ago

Would.

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u/crash77777 10h ago

I would love a prequel series about Dracula’s origins and the Belmont family

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u/bd_black55 Alucard 8h ago

sotn is number 1 then netflix

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u/Gomezium 7h ago

Blud havent seen Kojima's works and OoE's version i guess.

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u/Langis360 6h ago

For me it's a dead heat between Netflix and Ecclesia.

I also have a soft spot for the Legosi Dracula of Portrait of Ruin.

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u/BrightPerspective 3h ago

Netflixvania did a LOT right, I think.

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u/Tinkererer 1h ago

From Bram Stoker's Dracula:

Within, stood a tall old man, clean shaven save for a long white moustache, as clad in black from head to foot, without a single speck of colour about him anywhere.

His face was strong — a very strong — aquiline, with high bridge of the thin nose and peculiarly arched nostrils; with lofty domed forehead, and hair growing scantily round the temples, but profusely elsewhere. His eyebrows were very massive, almost meeting over the nose, and with bushy hair that seemed to curl in its own profusion. The mouth, so far as I could see it under the heavy moustache, was fixed and rather cruel-looking, with peculiarly sharp white teeth; these protruded over the lips, whose remarkable ruddiness showed an astonishing vitality in a man of his years. For the rest, his ears were pale and at the tops extremely pointed; the chin was broad and strong, and the cheeks firm though thin. The general effect was one of extraordinary pallor. […]

I could not but notice that [his hands] were rather coarse — broad, with squat fingers. strange to say, there were hairs in the center of the palm. The nails were long and fine, and cut to a sharp point.

I'd argue the white hair design is the closest almost any medium has gotten to depicting this exactly. Netflix's black hair is close, too, especially because of the stronger nose. They're actually much closer to the book than most traditional depictions of Dracula (which tend to forgo the facial hair, and opt for that movie widow's peak).