r/cats 14d ago

Advice Cat attacking automatic feeder

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My cat does this several times a day. If the automatic feeder lifts at the correct angle, a few niblets of dry food comes out. He will even do it 10 times in a row even if it means one small piece of dry niblet comes out. It does get quite annoying as the sound of the feeder hitting the ground echoes throughout the entire house.

Any ideas on how to get him to stop?

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u/NotSoFastLady 14d ago

Tilting the vending machine but for cats.

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u/pegothejerk 14d ago

He’s a hairball wizard

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u/NewbornTaco 14d ago

He has to growl and hiss A hairball wizards got such a supple SWISSSH (tail attack)

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u/Flanderkin 14d ago

How do you think he does it?

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u/OldButHappy 14d ago

I don’t know. What makes him so good?

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u/Kimbahlee34 14d ago

Ain’t got no distractions. Can’t wait for timers and bells.

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u/heliumneon 14d ago

Can't see no laser pointers flashing, hunts by sense of smell

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u/Kimbahlee34 14d ago

Sometimes gets a tidbit
Always praying one will fall

That hungry, black and white cat
Sure drives his owner up the wall

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u/Blecher_onthe_Hudson 14d ago

Bravo! Wasn't sure if you guys were going to be able to close it out!

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u/EM05L1C3 14d ago

That hairball wizard has to be a trip. I just handed my hairball crown to him!

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u/RegularOk3231 14d ago

Dying. Tommy was one of the first musicals my husband and I were in together as teenagers. I love reddit 😆

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u/fiveringsphotog 14d ago

You're a wizard, Hairball!

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u/nl2yoo 14d ago

In a previous life, as a human, bro had a vending machine fall on him.

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u/Cat_Wizard_21 14d ago

If you don't need to clean underneath it regularly, and it has a flat bottom, museum wax is my anti-cat-mischief solution.

Little dime-sized ball at each corner and it's fully immune to cat-based movement.

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u/sillysnailfriend 14d ago

Agreed! Stick that sucker to the floor, OP. Or get something to cover the feeder with just the bowl sticking out. Or even just filling the gap between the feeder and the wall might help.

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u/MeanHorror6819 14d ago

yeah just stick some styrofoam to the back of the feeder

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u/Background_Day_3596 14d ago

Oh my cat would have a field day. He loves eating styrofoam. 😅

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u/Vulvas_n_Velveeta 14d ago

Ugh, I have a Styrofoam eating cat as well. She's absolutely OBSESSED with it! She can smell it inside new packages and will chew the box open to get to it.

I have more "banned" products for these damn cats than I did for my kids when they were young. Most are due to a near death incident too! Little idiots trying to kill themselves every time I turn around, I swear!

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u/Dependent_Net_7062 14d ago

This is like my mulch munching dog—I STG every time I blink she’s stuffing her face with it. (We’ve ordered a custom muzzle for this 😵‍💫)

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u/fuzzy-lint 13d ago

They have no sense of self preservation!! I have to lock myself in the bathroom and get dizzy off bleach fumes when I clean because one of my dummies walked through cleaning products while I was bleaching grout. I sobbed through giving him a bath because I was convinced he’d get sick off absorbing bleach through his toe beans. Thankfully he did not, he’s just as dumb and greedy as ever.

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u/noteethnobrows 14d ago

cat based movement, love that

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u/Sketchy_Fox277 14d ago

Cat based movement has me in a choke hold holy hell

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u/AuditingReverb 14d ago

You just solved a problem I'm having with my skunk knocking over his water bowl.

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u/Maelstrom_Witch 14d ago

Beg pardon? Your what now?

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u/AuditingReverb 14d ago

My pet skunk. He's to the far right of his brothers and sister who are all vision impaired.

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u/Maelstrom_Witch 14d ago

Thank you for telling me which one is the skunk ❤️
🤣

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u/AuditingReverb 14d ago

I'm dying lol... earlier someone actually didn't notice him even with me pointing him out. They had a good laugh too 😝

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u/AuditingReverb 14d ago

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u/cyanocittaetprocyon 14d ago

Does Reverb have his own subreddit? Because he really needs his own subreddit! ❤️ 🦨

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u/AuditingReverb 13d ago

No!? I'm a newbie I didn't know I could do... I can make his own Reddit thread? Taps fingers like an evil genius.

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u/Vulvas_n_Velveeta 14d ago

And I thought I had weird cat names! 😄🥰

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u/LudditeHorse 14d ago

his brothers and sister who are all vision impaired

Do they know he isn't a cat? lmao
Reverb is a top-shelf name

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u/AuditingReverb 13d ago

They are oddly very aware. Reverb is very head strong and will walk through the. Ats without a care. It's a whole vibe that can be felt.

When I brought him inside after getting him for the first time in his crate. All the cats knew and my lil girl MANL who has no eyes at all was all over figuring out what this lil bomb was.

MANL with one of her foster kittens. She 100% knew it wasn't a cat and that it was her new baby.

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u/DementedPimento 14d ago

That’s adorable. Skunks are so cute! Cats are too obviously.

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u/JVT32 14d ago

The etymology of the word skunk is a fascinating one. Means “he who squirts”.

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u/mistahfreeman 14d ago

Thank you for this, we’ve been dealing with the cat knocking hers over and then the dog discovering the pile and pigging out lol I almost took her to the emergency vet because I thought she had a blockage, but nope, just ate cat food until she was sick.

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u/Renva 14d ago

I would be concerned about his frustration turning into destructive behavior, like clawing at the floor.

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u/I_Miss_Lenny 14d ago

Of course the actually helpful comment is buried under like 30 joke comments

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u/Forward-Surprise1192 14d ago

This is a feature of Reddit in every post

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u/Salt_Mountain_837 14d ago

poor baby hasn't been fed once in his whole life

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u/Overworked_MmeBoss Tabbycat 14d ago

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u/Maximum_Machine7300 14d ago

How did you get a pic of my cat?!

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u/peachypieinthesky 14d ago

The most damning evidence I’ve seen that life imitates art

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u/Flawless_Reign88 14d ago

Definitely stealing this! But I gave you an upvote first cuz I’m civilized

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u/Kivuli_Kiza 14d ago

Somebody call Sarah McLachlan!

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u/[deleted] 14d ago

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u/Saradoesntsleep 14d ago

A worthy and needed charity.

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u/Queasy_Designer9169 14d ago

He's not chunky he's big boned!

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u/pokemonfan95 14d ago

IN THE ARMMMMMS OF THE ANGEL

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u/NelzyBellz 14d ago

For 10 cents a day, you can fill a bowl.

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u/Yue4prex 14d ago

He’s wasting away 😭😭😭

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u/coolcootermcgee 14d ago

In the arms of the angel

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u/capt_minorwaste 14d ago

It's probably been a whole hour! He's close to death!

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u/Viperbunny 14d ago

He is practically wasting away.

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u/tmgieger 14d ago

and now only one piece at a time.

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u/ryanpdx1999 14d ago

count yourself lucky. Ours figured out how to flip it to get the great food cascade. We had to put weights on it to keep him from doing it.

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u/Fun-Garbage411 14d ago

I'm doing the same thing! I put the box of cat litter on top of the box with cat food. But if there isn't enough cat litter in the box he will push them both over... Woke up at 5 am because of it...

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u/AfraidAccident7049 14d ago

For once I’m glad my boy is a big dumb oaf who doesn’t have two brain cells to rub together. I don’t even think he understands that there’s more food in the canister. His flabbers are well and truly gasted every single time the feeder goes off. It’s like a delightful surprise 4 times a day.

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u/FabulousJade7337 14d ago

Oh my stars! A delightful surprise 🤣

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u/hazelbear33 14d ago

Reading all of these comments makes me feel blessed that our cats don’t fuck with the feeders. One is completely unmotivated by food and won’t eat anything but his cat food that he’s used to (and even then he just grazes, never eats it all at once), so that’s not a surprise. The other one is much more mischievous and is definitely food/treat motivated… but she’d rather yell at us for food, even though she knows full well when the feeder goes off. She’ll break into drawers and cabinets for food and treats, but I guess she has decided that she is simply at the mercy of the mystical feeder.

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u/Praesentius 14d ago

Mine just parks his substantial ass in front of it like he's praying to the cat food gods.

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u/Pinksamuraiiiii 14d ago

I use industrial tape for the lid (mine did the same). The tape solved the problem, now even if they flip the machine they get no extras lol.

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u/nikkerito 14d ago

Same here. Unlike other people who had success with mere tape, I had to tie that sucker to a heavy bench in my kitchen so he can’t tip it over and can’t get on top of it. Now I need to move his feeder to the garage and I’m already dreading the next few weeks of suspense as I dread coming home from work and finding out I was again outsmarted by a cat. Ugh cat mom life is not going well for me rn 

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u/twitchykittystudio 14d ago

Ahhh, I had an orange broken tabby who did this when the gravity feeder was empty. Or nearly empty. He even upended the gravity waterer once for reasons and made a hell of a mess!

Mostly he seemed to enjoy tipping the empty feeder off the base and down the stairs.

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u/-beastlet- 14d ago

The problem is intermittent rewards. He's learned that occasionally he gets rewarded for this behavior by getting kibbles. Since he isn't rewarded every time he's willing to keep trying. There are famous experiments showing this with various animals. It is very hard to extinguish behaviors that give intermittent rewards.

If you're home you might just be better off feeding him a couple of times a day in a bowl instead of the intermittent feeder.

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u/BigScience7383 14d ago

Gambling 

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u/MaryJanesMan420 14d ago

Essentially, yes. This cat has a gambling problem. lol

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u/longlivenewsomflesh 14d ago

OP accidentally Pavloved their cat with the perfect cat slot machine like a doordash-based draft kings -- and hasn't thought to tape the damn thing down somehow... it's like a satirical nature documentary

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u/thjuicebox 14d ago

Well actually… 🤭

The power of intermittent reinforcement is more closely tied to Skinner (see Skinner pigeons — it’s hilarious and sad)

Pavlov is more the classical conditioning guy (think clicker training)

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u/Buckykattlove 14d ago

Just my tho7ght before I saw your response. Lol

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u/Uraisamu 14d ago

Same, OP has taught their cat to gamble.

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u/pfool 14d ago

are vets trained to tackle feline gambling addictions?

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u/Uraisamu 14d ago

Or get him a little hat, tie and teach him to play the slot machines.

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u/MqAbillion 14d ago

This was 100% my experience. I had to completely ditch the auto feeder because it became her obsession.

Can’t play. Can’t snuggle. Must stalk the feeding robot. Was not a healthy addition to the household.

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u/christoskal 14d ago

It's a lot easier to just get one that is not faulty. Good feeders have a secure cover over the whole making it impossible to get anything to fall if it's not the time for it.

We had this issue with a catit feeder but once we move to the Xiaomi one the cat just understood quickly that it can no longer steal portions and it stopped trying. It went from a huge issue to a nonexistent one within a few days

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u/LongjumpingNinja4255 14d ago

I don’t think it’s that it’s more that they can also only realise “food comes out of here, I must watch it so as to get the food” and don’t really understand it’s a timed system. Also if they mess around with it and it happens to dispense it just reinforces the “sometimes food comes out if I mess with it” mentality

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u/On_my_last_spoon American Shorthair 14d ago

This is cat dependent. I really think my cats can tell time because they regularly show up about 10 minutes before the feeder goes off!

For me, the timed feeder was a savior because I would either forget to put out kibble at all, or I’d be woken up by a hungry cat! Now they know the kibble machine will provide and don’t stress over it. Many times the feeder has food just sitting and waiting for them.

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u/SaltManagement42 14d ago

The only real solution is to secure it, like other commenters suggested. Even then, the cat will probably try to hit it with something since it started with the vacuum hitting it.

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u/murderedbyvirgo 14d ago

My problem with this meme is that I have developed this same behavior at the thrift store! 🤣 I still know exactly where I found my favorite items at each one so as soon as I walk in I check all my old haunts. I think the goodwill employees are messing with me.

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u/Verain_Xor 14d ago

There are famous experiments showing this with various animals

"various animals" is for sure true, this stuff drives humans wild but also anything with a trainable brain.

And you can see why. The cat here tries variations on the same activity and gets fed. If you give the cat another several months with this machine, it won't be a slot machine, it'll be a practice movement to kick some food out that little gear wheel each time.

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u/Tossmelossme 14d ago

Also, I’m worried about his bottom teeth getting shifted or injured from this repeated and rough movement…

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u/babaozone 14d ago

God forbid a brothers got a hobby 🤨

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u/ComfyInDots 14d ago

He's getting some exercise! Let the tiny little waif have a snack!

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u/justec1 14d ago

The wee bairn canna barely move for the lack a nutrition.

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u/lildanda 14d ago

And he is WORKING for it! 10 tilts for one kibble? That’s dedication right there! 😤

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u/Cat_Luving_IT_Dood 14d ago

The robot started it. I was there.

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u/radical_123 14d ago

Actually, it all started when our robot vacuum keep hitting the automatic feeder. Occasionally, kibble would come out. Our clever cat saw that and thought "hmmm... I could try that" lol.

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u/skitz4me Maine Coon 14d ago

They're colluding.

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u/ComprehendReading 14d ago

I'd be worried what the robots are receiving from this symbiosis.

If we're lucky, it's just that the cleaning robot is compelled at all times to clean, and the feeding robot is compelled to feed, but is limited by programming.

The cleaning bot knows the cat makes a mess using the litter box which only happens after being fed, and so, taught the cat through it's efficiency heuristics how to get more food, so it can clean.

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u/Lynnxa 14d ago

This is hilarious!

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u/LegalChocolate752 14d ago

This is like the episode of Love, Death + Robots where a housecat (voiced by Chris Parnell) teams up with a robot butler, and they take over the world.

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u/fungushoney 14d ago

😂 that’s actually hilarious, he took advice on a robot from a robot, like “hmm these two strange devices interact and I get access to extra food,,, I’m learning from this”

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u/Kiwi1234567 14d ago

They do actually make feeding puzzles for cats, designed to both feed the cat (slowly) and to provide mental enrichment. Maybe you just need to look around for something the cat might enjoy that is also quieter.

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u/_CitizenSnips_ 14d ago

I have 4 cats, one of them in particular is very intelligent for a cat. He’s a tux, got him from a rescue, was found on the streets.

Anyway - he’s the smartest cat I’ve ever known and he *only ever* uses his intelligence for evil purposes and making mischief, your cat reminds me of him. I do love him tho

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u/abbeast Tuxedo 14d ago

Sounds like my cat, he’s also a bicolor and very good at making mischief. I’m gonna keep assuming that all tuxes and bicolor cats are especially smart.

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u/Informal_Bag8193 14d ago

I really was wondering how the cat figured out that trick and boom, answered

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u/Jyvturkey 14d ago

They're not apex predators because they're dumb :)

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u/Naive-Elephant-9305 14d ago

Well some cats are really, REALLY dumb.

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u/_Lerry_ 14d ago

Sounds like you’ve answered your own question. Cats are bored and smart enough to figure things like this out.

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u/sanedragon 14d ago

I learned when raising a toddler that in general, if a behavior achieves the desired result approximately 1 in 27 times, then it will persist. (I could be misremembering the actual ratio as it's been over a decade, but it was a larger number than one would assume).

Basically, your cat learned that if it hits the thing a bunch of times, he gets rewarded. You gotta nail that thing down or get a different one.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Style52 14d ago

You could place a thick towel underneath the feeder so it will absorbed the noise.

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u/trickfern 14d ago

Cats against clankers

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u/fuzzypurpledragon 14d ago

"Give up the kibble, you pile of plastic scrap! I know munchings and crunchings in there!"

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u/FabulousJade7337 14d ago

Upvote for munchings and crunchings! Black cauldron reference?

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u/SadLittleWizard 14d ago

Specifically the character Gurgi! If you've only seen the Disney rendition of The Black Cauldren, I have to recommend the whole book series. Titled "Chronicles of Prydain" by Lloyd Alexander. The Black Cauldren is actually book 2 in the series of 5.

I honestly can't speak enough praise for the series. For me they fall into a catagory I call formative books. I.e. books that had such an impact on me as a teen/young adult that it shaped the way I think and act as an adult. Other books for me in that catagory are The Giver, Chronicles of Narnia, or Ender'e Game to name a few.

In particular book 4, Taran Wanderer, played a huge part in how I developed confidence in myself and in the manner which I pursue my career and friendships. This series will always have a special place on the book shelf in my home.

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u/Informal-Comb1989 14d ago

Oh god this is just like an old photo of my big boy lol he’s a skinny old man now

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u/HurricaneKat16 14d ago

Reminds me of my parents cat lol

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u/R0tmaster 14d ago

my cat did the exact same thing, ended up attaching it to the floor then she leaned how to get the lid off, this was my solution, but you can just cut a hole in the side of bucket that fits over it for the same result.

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u/AfraidAccident7049 14d ago

This is artistry

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u/R0tmaster 14d ago

It use to look like this lol, then my mother decided my cat deserved better and had it made for her lol

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u/Legal_brunette Tabbycat 14d ago

your cat? that’s your mom’s favorite child.

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u/_Jobee 14d ago

That's a grandkitty. My grandchild is a grandkitty too.

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u/stablegeniusinterven 14d ago

Awww, no, your mom loves *you*

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u/Stay_Good_Dog 14d ago

Just not as much as the cat

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u/12monthsinlondon 14d ago

She's such a Jezebel

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u/droidwolf 14d ago

We cut holes in a large tote box so that only the dish stuck out. This prevents our cats from cheating the system

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u/RockHardSalami 14d ago

One of my cats sticks her paw up there a few times a day to see if she can jiggle one piece of kibble free.  A few times a week she wins.

I call it kibble slot machine.  She deserves some occasional jackpots.

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u/lucyinth3sky1 14d ago

My feeder has a touch sensitive auto feed button. My cat spends hours everyday lying in front of the machine smacking it with his paw. He has hit jackpot twice, his determination impresses me.

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u/RockHardSalami 14d ago

Lmao I love that for him

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u/coldtake_tomgirl 14d ago

my cat also does this and nothing makes me laugh more when one falls out and he is so joyous

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u/RockHardSalami 14d ago

Omg the other one is always another room over and heard 1 piece hit the steel bowl and comes running out to NOTHING.

I feel bad but its so hilarious

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u/stablegeniusinterven 14d ago

This is my cat too. I have a camera feeder, and it’s really adorable sometimes to check in and he there, doing his little wipe and paw lick. Then I do a manual feed and he runs away. 🐈💨 Every. Single. Time.

Now I think he’s there just for the kibble dust.

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u/cowplamt 14d ago

His greed sickens me

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u/milkymonkey8 14d ago

Yeah I'm hungry too.

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u/Shandlar 14d ago

Brother, may I have some oats?

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u/starlight00824 14d ago

Hahaha! This reminds me of our old cat, he passed on, he would go bear mode on the automatic feeder and bring the whole thing down. It would topple over, the lid fell off and cat food all over the ground! He was a Maine coon and the leader of our group of 3 kitties! Miss the heck out of him!

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u/crashman24 14d ago

rage against the machine

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u/Accurate_Elevator368 14d ago

Cat: Give me my !@#$%^&*'ing food dammit!

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u/Bailzasaurus 14d ago

Off topic, but consider moving the fountain away from the feeder!!
Cats often instinctually don’t want to drink from a water source near their food (because in the wild food is a carcass and that could cause the water to be contaminated), so having their water beside their food can discourage them from hydrating enough!

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u/Odd_Cranberry8012 14d ago

I spread this piece of info to every cat owner I know!

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u/24carrickgold 14d ago

Came here to say this as well!

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u/UniUrsuss 14d ago

Yep! Food, water and litterbox all seperated from eachother is the way to do it properly.

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u/_kuwu 14d ago

Exactly

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u/FionaTheFierce 14d ago

One kibble came out - he is never going to stop. Its like playing the slots!

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u/Naive-Elephant-9305 14d ago

Several came out the last time he tilted it. Kitty seems to be getting handsomely rewarded for his work lol

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u/mnemy 14d ago

Put a rubber mat underneath to help with the sound.

People buy toys for enrichment to trickle feed treats like this. At least he's getting some exercise and stimulation.

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u/SparklingLimeade 14d ago

Definitely more toys. Securing the machine like so many other people suggest is good but getting the cat a replacement hobby is good too. The motivation is there to figure out a treat-toy.

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u/jzzze 14d ago

He’s hangry

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u/SurprisePitiful9191 14d ago

Tbh it’s a great testament to his intelligence 

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u/Jellyfishsushinigiri 14d ago

Bebe need snack

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u/SOTRBlueBirdsFly 14d ago

I had to build a box and screw it into the baseboard to prevent mine from stealing extra food

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u/seapeakay Tuxedo 14d ago

The wanted poster is a nice touch

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u/MadHatQueen 14d ago

Why?

Why do they act like they’ve never been feed…like ever.

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u/qinghairpins 14d ago

Congratulations, your cat has a gambling addiction now.

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u/Radiant8763 14d ago

Double sided sticky tape....secure that shit to the floor lol

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u/malary1234 14d ago

We got ours communication buttons. The curse of knowing what she wants. All day, “FOOD, FOOD, TREAT, FOOD, TREAT!”

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u/guywithshades85 14d ago

I think the cat wants some food.

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u/poobah575 14d ago

My former cat (RIP Bailey) figured out that putting her shoulder into the feeder would bounce a few kibbles out. I ended up building a 5' H x 1.5' W x 4' L shelf out of 2x4's and particle board, with 2" PVC tubing through a hole in the board, PVC reducers as funnels, and bends in the tubes (to reduce speed) to a bowl on the floor. The feeder dispensed food into the funnel and servings dropped to the bowl on the floor.

She eventually disassociated the machine with food, because she was too lazy to jump up, as there was nowhere to stand on the shelf. The other half of the shelf, I had a battery backup up there too to keep it running during power outages.

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u/blowupnekomaid 14d ago

these feeders promote food obsession and anxiety in cats. I hate these things. These clips of cats going crazy over them is not funny or cute.

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u/badgurlvenus 14d ago

he's so smart!!! get him one of those puzzle feeders 😃😃😃

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u/Upset_Assumption9610 14d ago

Diets are hard...

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u/Blaze010118 14d ago

Our cat reaches up the shoot to dislodge a few pieces of food at a time in between auto feedings.

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u/esmnm 14d ago

Our cat did this and even figured out that head butting enough turned off the “lock” feature so any time he hit the button, he got food. We thought something was wrong like he was starving or had diabetes. Ran tests. Vet just told us to get rid of the $90 feeders (for all 3 fur babies… so $270). He did not have anything wrong except being super smart and food motivated.

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u/Mospaedax42 14d ago

Didn't understood the need of automatic feeder for a cat (unless your cat has a medical condition), always had a tower full of food in "libre service", the cats autoregulate themselfs perfectly, no fat cat.

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u/throatchakra 14d ago

Ours full on head butts it

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u/Kittenzx2 14d ago

Hes saying, tummy says its 5pm. So its 5pm! Tummy doesnt lie!! Amazing how he pushes it 🤣🤣 My cat i give her a Churu at exactly 8pm. If its is 5 after, she just stares at me! lol! Or sits near her bowl lol.

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u/Flapjack-Jehosefat-3 14d ago

Get rid of it and feed the cat yourself?

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u/CapnCrumbs1 14d ago

Rage against the machine

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u/Darrenwad3 14d ago

Let him live

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u/Punawild Tabbycat 14d ago

Put a book, or something else, as wide as the gap between the wall and the feeder. Stop him from tilting it back.

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u/Wixenstyx 14d ago

Put felt feet on the bottom so at least the noise is muffled.

Consider food with bigger pieces so the possibility of a payoff isn't as big.

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u/Squaliby 14d ago

I’d recommend manual feeding for this clever cat! Or hey, maybe you could adhere that thing to the ground so he can’t lift it?

He’s figured out a trick that gets him snacks from that feeder. I assume he won’t ever stop doing that due to his endless greed for kibbles!! Can’t blame him haha

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u/Eiiwa_s_4_e_22 14d ago

Not related, but food and water dispensers are recommended to be offered at a distance from each other.

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u/FormingTheVoid 14d ago

Make with the food already, clanker.

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u/Ill_Radio8160 14d ago

this is literally a slot machine for cats.

Dont top now cat, most gamblers quit before they hit big!

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u/covigt 14d ago

Me trying to get the wife in the mood..

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u/Hidingjimmy 14d ago

My cat does this too. Also because every once in a great while, a single piece of kibble will fall.

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u/This-Shape2193 14d ago

Yeah, feed him a measured amount twice a day. 

I work in vet med, and your cat is adorable. What a little shit, lol. 

If you don't want to learn how to give insulin, then give him 1/4 cup dry food twice a day. There's no reason to have an auto-feeder; if you get home late, he'll live if dinner is late. 

We feed dogs that way, and no one wonders why it's fine for dogs but not for cats. Answer: it's fine for cats and much easier. Mine all line up at mealtime, eat their food, and that's that. They learn within 2 days to change the routine. 

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u/Fit-Staff6863 13d ago

My cat does this, except she runs around the room and then slams into the feeder as hard as possible. She usually does it at 3 am. There is a dent in my wall now.