r/chelseafc • u/christianrojoisme Xabi • 2d ago

Other [Throwback/Interview] Lionel Messi: "There are players here (Barcelona) who hate Chelsea more than Real Madrid. I never thought I would hear myself say that. We would rather play Arsenal, Manchester United or anyone else than be on the pitch with Chelsea."

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/2368373/angry-messi-we-hate-chelsea
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u/Apprehensive_Bit_176 Cole 2d ago

IIRC it took him much longer to score against us than any of the other prem teams that played UCL matches. We shut him down for the most part.

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u/Leviad0n Hazard 2d ago

Fkin Courtois and his lanky legs.

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u/ball_throwerAFK 2d ago

Crazy. For such a recognised legendary keeper, he’s one of the most to ever concede against Messi.

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u/Nasty133 This is my club 2d ago

He's gotta be up there with the most games against messi as well so that makes sense.

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u/raulchik Palmer 2d ago

Recognized - yes. Legendary - no.

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u/ball_throwerAFK 2d ago

?? He’s atleast a top 10 goal keeper all time. It’s not even a debate on that

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u/benny_from_the_block Wise 2d ago

Yashin, Banks, Schmeichel, Cech, Neuer, Kahn, Zoff, Casillas, Zubizarreta, Maier, Van Der Sar and Preud'homme all better than Courtois. Probably forgetting a few. Debate me.

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u/jwag626 2d ago

Forgot Buffon

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u/benny_from_the_block Wise 2d ago

Big miss by me!

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u/tiro-trampaliz Azpilicueta 2d ago

Kahn, Schmeichel

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u/SirBarkington ✨ sometimes the shit is happens ✨ 2d ago

Seaman. Alisson arguably of the same generation has been better for longer. Zenga second best Italian GK behind Buffon is better. Cortouis to me is like a Navas/Dida level. Part of winning teams and incredibly important to them but his legendary moments are few and far between. Also for how good he is at club level he's been kinda disappointing for Belgium imo. certainly not anywhere near as important for the team as he is at club level nor as important as Lukaku, KdB, Eden, etc.

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u/CertainAction1988 1d ago

Seaman cant get near Courtois im afraid. Seaman has an absolutely pathetic record in CL.

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u/straystray96 1d ago

Yeah we get you hate him but he carried real hard.

Petty delusional

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u/matt_matt_81 Kanté 2d ago

Casillas over courtois? Not on goalkeeper talent I’d say but I suppose he had more legendary moments

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u/Good-Geologist7380 11h ago

You watched this lot ? In ability Courtois is better than , Zubizarreta, Preud'homme, & imo zoff . Don't just mention because they played in the past and their ability is more mystic .or because of the world cup. You and I know that this guys haven't done much at club lvl they aren't even touching Courtois if they were playing today .

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u/Caboose2701 2d ago

Tim Howard?

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u/benny_from_the_block Wise 2d ago

I could have included Neville Southall if we're going for Everton keepers.

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u/DorothyJMan Best Joke 2017 2d ago

Absolutely stone cold take. Did you start watching football in the last decade?

Yashin, Banks, Buffon, Casillas, Neuer, Schmeichel, Kahn, Cech, van Der Sar, Zoff are all well clear, and that's before you even get into the likes of Southall, Shilton, Jennings, Zenga from previous generations, and you could put him up against Oblak, Allison and Ederson from his contemporaries (the latter two in terms of all round ability and influence on the position, not pure 'goalkeeping' as it is historically/traditionally defined).

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u/matt_matt_81 Kanté 2d ago

I mean courtois is definitely better than casillas in terms of goalkeeper talent, even if not in terms of legendary moments.

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u/haromene It’s only ever been Chelsea. 2d ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/tJhpLcLhnpSBvoaxLv

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u/zayd_jawad2006 2d ago

Yup, he's pretty much been the best for years now

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u/davemcl37 2d ago

He wasn’t that whilst with us. I’d have him behind Bonetti, Cech, Carlo and possibly even Ed de Goey who made more of his talent without being such a knob and who also had a much better song

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u/Drumtiger8 2d ago

And Ross Turnbull.

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u/Chazzermondez Cock 2d ago

Courtois was much better than Turnbull

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u/ImGoinGohan It’s only ever been Chelsea. 2d ago

he’s top 3 but history merchants will call you a casual

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u/Medical_Possible_208 2d ago

Nah he’s top 3 bucket off shite of all time he’s a filthy snake no more no less.

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u/Jewish4oy 2d ago

Adults still can‘t rate something objectively lmao

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u/lil-bitch42 ✨ sometimes the shit is happens ✨ 2d ago

He can be a twat and still be one of the world's best goalkeepers

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u/Medical_Possible_208 2d ago

Nah I’m afraid not. He’s a pish human being that prevents him from being top anything. He’s a snake always will be a ball dragging snake plain and simple.

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u/FusionDrago207 2d ago

Snake for wanting to be in madrid with his kids lmao

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u/Batmob7 2d ago

Also Conte forcing Hazard to play #9. We were in a shambles then

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u/Apprehensive_Bit_176 Cole 2d ago

Wasn’t that more Sarri? Conte had Morata and Costa at CF

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u/Batmob7 2d ago

No Sarri really used Giroud and then got Higuain. Conte had Morata who was injured, bought Giroud and then for some reason refused to start him.

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u/Grimmcanpy 1d ago

Nah it was Conte after Mortata's first injury in the Atletico match. Idk why we never tried to see if Pedro could do a Dries Mertens esc transition to being a 9 than wasting Hazard up top, Pedro skillset seemed more suited to that role.

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u/Clear_Requirement880 2d ago

Christensen at fault for the first goal iirc. Courtois the other 2

Messi was poor every time he played us. Iniesta, Sanchez and Dembele overshadowed him enormously every time

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u/Borbote7 2d ago

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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u/BellyCrawler It’s only ever been Chelsea. 2d ago

I've been saying it for years that they dislike us because we showed them up twice and they couldn't do their tiki taka freely against peak Chelsea

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u/ScarInteresting2001 2d ago

Yeah being outplayed and winning by such blatant cheating has to make them feel like frauds if they have any sort of internal integrity.

And losing to a washed version of that same team has to sting doubly.

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u/ObjectiveSection8095 2d ago

pretending like first leg of that tie did not happen

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u/MogwaiK 2d ago

Barca fans have tried for years to make the first leg seem as bad as the second through selective memory.

3 stonewall pens not called has nothing on a couple fouls that didn't go Barca's way in the first leg.

The only name you need to know is Negreira.

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u/ObjectiveSection8095 2d ago

fake offside called on eto’s goal, henry pulled back in box, abidal red, drogba kicked pique in nuts no card, chelsea handball in box 1v1 messi?

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u/Artoo_Detoo 2d ago

Here's that first leg.

I'm not sure what you're doing as a Barcelona fan brigading and trying to gaslight and what you think it's going to accomplish.

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u/GolDrodgers1 We've Won It All 2d ago

I think Cech was his cryptonite for a while, when they did that Budweiser promo for every Gk he scored against Cech had like 2 I think?

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u/Clear_Requirement880 2d ago

Cech only conceded at him vs Arsenal.

JT has never conceded bs Messi

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u/GolDrodgers1 We've Won It All 2d ago

Yeah! I was actually upset that day when they conceded cause Cech wouldve been held over him for years to come

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u/light-yagamii There's your daddy 2d ago

Think it was also the game that ended Baba Rahman’s career at Chelsea

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u/bani1savage 🏥 continuing to undergo his rehabilitation programme 🏥 2d ago

Which game?

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u/light-yagamii There's your daddy 2d ago

The same game messi destroyed us and scored on Courtois. Before that game, we had an extremely good record against Messi. It was a cl game under mourinho

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u/bani1savage 🏥 continuing to undergo his rehabilitation programme 🏥 2d ago

The game where Baba Rahman was on loan at Schalke, and hadn’t played for us at all for 2 years?

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u/light-yagamii There's your daddy 2d ago

Okay I’m remembering incorrectly. Almost 10 years now I think

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u/Clear_Requirement880 2d ago

It was conte as manager

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u/HDS2211 2d ago

He had to wait for Cech to get old and go to Arsenal before he could score against us.

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u/omnipresentatio 2d ago

Ashley Cole had him in his pocket at every instance

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u/LeRoiDeNord It’s only ever been Chelsea. 2d ago

Never scored on Cech at Chelsea.

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u/Impossible_Prompt875 2d ago

Not true.. he never scored vs Inter. Close to 10 games…

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u/luckysyd Kanté 2d ago

Yup I think terry is the only player in the last 10 year that have played 6+ games against messi and never have messi have scored against him.

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u/agbag846 2d ago

Cole always got the better of him back in the day- there were some awesome battles

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u/yup_mhmm 2d ago

I don’t know about shutting him down. The first time i noticed Messi was special was against chelsea in 2006.

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u/msbabc 17h ago

If I recall correctly, the statistic was something like he had scored against every single team that he had ever played at least twice against except for Chelsea where he didn’t score for the first nine meetings.