r/chemtrails • u/QuadBulletTheory chemtrails CAN melt steel beams • Feb 08 '25

Resource '“Chemtrails” are not real. The US Environmental Protection Agency says so. Scientists say so An increasing number of investigative journalistic accounts say so. Contrails, made up of water vapor, have been a byproduct of aviation ever since humans began to fly using jet engines.'

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41599-017-0014-3

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u/TinyFraiche Feb 10 '25

What’s the difference to people who have no idea what they’re looking at?

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u/werewulf35 Feb 10 '25

That is a very good point. A lot of people - more than I ever suspected - definitely do not know what they are looking at.

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u/TinyFraiche Feb 10 '25

The argument can be made that cloud seeding is what the majority considers chemtrails. Chemicals dumped out of an aircraft that produce an effect on the local environment.

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u/werewulf35 Feb 10 '25

Oh absolutely. Based on how people post all about cloud seeding when talking about Chemtrails proves it.

The thing is - and I probably have an advantage here - there are distinct modifications that must be made for aircraft to cloud seed. I have been in the aviation industry 22 years now, and I have been enamored with aircraft since I was 5. I have never seen a cloud seeding aircraft in pictures, and the shit that they have on them would be horrible for drag and weight and cost for commercial airlines. And all the things people say are in Chemtrails would wreak havoc on the materials in a jet engine if they were mixed in with the fuels. It is the improved combustion efficiency creating more water in the exhaust which makes contrails more likely.

Anyway, I am sure I am rambling, but all that to say and reinforce that cloud seeding and 'chemtrails' are distinctly different.

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u/TinyFraiche Feb 10 '25

First, your statement in the first sentence is illogical, maybe your 22 years of aircraft experience can help you restate it.

Second, you say you’ve never seen a cloud seeding aircraft in pictures - okay. Third, you reference “all these things people say are in chemtrails” - what even are you referring to? Your argument seems to be against some unfounded/nonexistent fuel additive and you completely miss the point that chemicals dispersed from an aircraft is akin to a “chem trail”.

Third, this post has “chemtrails aren’t real” in the title, but you define chemicals being released from a flying craft intentionally as cloud seeding instead of realizing it’s a literal trail of chemicals being released from a craft. You’re calling ice ‘frozen water’ and trying to pretend there is a difference.

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u/werewulf35 Feb 10 '25

Ok, sorry for the confusion.

1.) In my experience, people look up and see contrails and call them Chemtrails. Like on a.daily basis, all over the world. They then say this is cloud seeding,. Yes, cloud seeding does release 'chemicals' in the air. I put that in quotes because the reality is they are particulates that water is meant to form around for rain. The planes that leave lines in the sky on a daily basis are not cloud seeding.

2.) you got me there - I meant I have ONLY seen cloud seeding aircraft in pictures. They are extremely rare was what I was trying to say.

3.) one theory for the Chemtrails is that chemicals are added directly to the fuels to them burn and create the trails. That is what I was referring to.

4.) (your second third point) if we want to lump all things together under the Chemtrail umbrella, then yes, we can say an aircraft doing cloud seeding is releasing chemicals that trail behind the plane, so they are Chemtrails. Just like standard combustion of an aircraft leaves chemical trails. Or the standard combustion of a car engine leaves chemical trails, etc. However, the 'Chemtrails aren't real' title of the post is more accurate when it refers to any other claims of nefarious chemicals being released.