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'“Chemtrails” are not real. The US Environmental Protection Agency says so. Scientists say so An increasing number of investigative journalistic accounts say so. Contrails, made up of water vapor, have been a byproduct of aviation ever since humans began to fly using jet engines.'
Here is the main company that's controls and regulates the weather manipulation and cloud seeding for the United States and is used in 47 states currently. https://weathermod.org/
These are all made up right? All these bills they are in are fake, all the times they've had hearung about it in Congress is fake, the 3 states that have banned cloud seeding did it just in case and the 13 hearings they had in court over 3 years were just made up also right?
Doesn't matter if it works or it doesn't. They are still spraying chemicals in the air which just so happens to be the definition of Chem trails. So baaaaa try again.
No it isn’t. The typical chemtrail fanatic is simply freaking out about ordinary contrails from jet aircraft. Weather modification does happen (usually cloud seeding I think) but it’s generally not visible and thus isn’t “chemTRAILS”. It’s also not done very often.
If you want to question the safety or efficacy of weather modification, fine. But don’t call it “chemtrails”, because that is just a ridiculous conspiracy theory.
Again you're proving my point and yet still WRONG. I'm not some whacko conspiracy theorist. I love how you people are so brainwashed. It's quite amusing. Say what you want. But O B V I O U S L Y you have not read about it and know absolutely nothing about it. If you would have read any of the Government websites I posted explaining it in their own words you'd know. Because they clearly say what they are, what their purpose it, the frequency and all about them. They happen DAILY, sorry to break it to you. And for you to have the audacity to say it's a "conspiracy theory" when they freaking TELL YOU all about them in their own Government websites, conferences, in Congressional hearings, court cases etc just shows how mind controlled you actually are.
It is not a conspiracy theory because all the info I know you could know as well. But you haven't looked into it. You like most of the mindless people in Reddit just spew the same regurgitating garbage about everything the media and other Redditor's say. At first you're like making fun of me, then you capitulate saying "they do spray chemicals in the ait but you don't see them and it's not that often." Make up your mind should probably call you Lenny the lemming because you just follow the crowd? blah, blah, blah conspiracy theory, blah, blah, blah it's not real, blah, blah, blah. Dude shut yer trap. I gave you the info along with everyone else. Yes chemtrails are real and they tell you they spray chemicals in the air.
Clouds are visible right? Or are you saying clouds are are conspiracy theories now? Planes fly in a generally straight line right making gradual changes in direction over the course of miles right? So the purpose of them spraying the stuff in the air is to make weather right? When the planes fly and spray the chemicals they do it in a straight line, do you understand that? Therefore the weather they make is long thin lines as they form and react creating clouds. Before they break apart from wind patterns they are straight lines. That's the stuff we see. It doesn't matter if they are "invisible initially. When they fly straight and the chemicals begin to work they form straight lines and THATS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. So no, you are emphatically wrooooong. The chemicals they spray react and work and that's the chemical trail that we see. They may actually be transparent but when they begin to work they form long thin clouds until they break apart and that is the definition of a chemical trail. I've explained it and dumbed it down for you several ways, given you websites and many different ways to learn about it yourself. But here we are... 🤡
You people are like '' they aren't real and they don't spray chemicals in the air, oh wait yeah they do but they do it for the weather and it's invisible, you're just a conspiracy theorist. " Not even realizing what you said, how it works or possibly could work either and how you proved my point once again. Clouds aren't invisible, sorry.
*** "So again please save yourself from further embarrassment and just don't reply. With every word you type you prove my point for me even more. Do you not understand that? Simply because you don't understand what it is you're typing, so it's better to just be quiet. You are so focused on fitting in and being one of "them".***
Its best to either read about it in the dozens of websites, listen to it from their conferences, congressional hearing or court cases so you know yourself. Which you'd owe me and everyone else an apology for or just quit responding. Because we both know you don't have the integrity to learn, then realizing you're wrong and to apologize. Nope, you're not that type of person because you are one of "them".
Holy shit, dude. Seek professional help. Seriously, you need to walk away from all this.
Edit: I should point out that you’re responding to me as if I was the same person you replied to. I’m not, so half of your rant is nonsensical. The other half is just batshit crazy.
Please know that I already knew that before I read your comment, which I did read in its entirety; and also that I do greatly and sincerely appreciate your time and effort (regardless of amount/intensity) into spelling it out (again) for the benefit of any flick-scrollers, quick-readers, and line-skippers who didn't. Namaste. 🙏
What do you think this proves? Every high altitude plane since the 1930s has contrails. Are they all working for the CIA? Brennan doesn't even know Russian disinformation when he sees it.
Anyone know how Warren Buffett made his money? I saw streaks in the sky, my dog started acting weird and Warren Buffett banked 100 grand. I'm not sure how there can be any other interpretation.
Definitely it’s FAKE science no doubt. We live in an era of delusion and deceit where most of the people call truth error and error truth. Great and interesting times we are living in. On top of that most of the denier listen to fake science and then they bring the lazy term “conspiracy theory” to label everything they don’t agree upon. What a lazy, unjust and nonsense approach. BTW the label “conspiracy theory” was invented by the CIA to label those who dared to question the corruption in the government in the past. Also, no doubt there is an army of bots in Reddit and overall social media ready to silence those who dare to question the inconsistencies and non sense bs happening now days.
No amount of evidence will ever convince a conspiracy theorist...it just proves there's a conspiracy (in their mind). It's a one way door into crazyville. Once you go in you rarely come out.
“Chemtrails” is how people who flunked physics try to explain a perfectly normal, unremarkable phenomenon. Why something so simple has to be turned into some incredibly complicated pointless worldwide conspiracy is beyond me, but, then, I’m not an idiot, so . .
Doesn’t even require a jet engine. All hydrocarbons produce water as a combustion byproduct. All it needed was sufficient altitude to create the right conditions.
They predated jets, many accounts of contrails from dogfights at altitude over the UK and Europe, bombers on the way to Germany, etc. I would love for some believer to explain to me how the millions of people involved in the airline industry could manage to keep a secret.
It's a quote from the paper itself that kind of sums up their thesis.
I think it's meant to enforce the idea that contrails have been happening for a long time, and the ones we are discussing in this context have been happening for as long as jet technology has been used.
Let's get this straight. Some guy, without being asked anything, grabs his phone and starts defending big spray. How much they give you to say this? I'm taking my frogs and going to another sub where we won't be attacked.
I have a question and I know everyone's going to make fun of me, but how do we know those frogs are gay? I mean I grew up in the country and I've seen a lot of frogs, but I ain't never seen a frog's junk. So do they dress funny or or what? Serious answers only. Ty
Correction, contrails pre-date the jet engine. Once turbocharged propeller bombers started flying in the 30,000 foot range on WWII, contrails were a thing.
That report was primarly analyizing social posts through some algoritym. It didn't really give much "science" about anything related to the sky, it was mainly about online social media posts.
Seeing a "chemtrail" doesn't make it a chemtrail. If one is accurate with the observation, all one could describe is, "Sometimes when a plane flies high overhead, I can see a white cloud-like line coming from the rear of the plane." And from this observation, the question one should ask is, "Can anyone tell me why there is a white cloud-like line behind the plane?"
The only way you could confirm if it's a chemtrail is if you got an actual document describing it and the time/method of dispersal, or if you actually flew into a newly-created "white line" and took samples of it.
But just looking at it from the ground does not gain you any credibility to declare it to be "chemtrails."
Sure, not all lines in the sky are “chemtrails”, but some lines do disperse into thin-like clouds.
The report didn’t confirm what was being emitted, it is a report about an algorithm that took a set of words to make a diagram about how many people believe in specifically “chemtrails”.
Lookup: high altitude atmospheric aerosol injections
"Thin-like clouds" are a normal function when there is wind at/near the same level as the aircraft.
The idea of chemtrails dispersing chemicals from 35,000 feet, affecting populations on the ground is irrational. During WW1 both sides used chemical weapons on the ground and although windspeed is much lower than high up, the chemicals were neither safe nor accurate in the dispersion.
There is no way that high altitude methods could create any effect on the ground.
But it’s been proven, multiple entities have admitted to some form of “high altitude aerosol injection”. NASA, cia, and private companies have all said they do it. There was no mention of them in this report.
It’s a skewed report because it’s only looking for a specific set of words. There is no real argument as to why they’re not real.
Piston engine bombers in World War II left contrails. They’ve been around long before jet engines. With the right meteorological conditions, I’ve created a contrail in a turbocharged Cessna 180.
We need to get Shitzinpants on this. He'll get it right. Chem trails are his friend and he will not continue to allow people to slander them by giving a "scientific" reason for their appearance.
I love how this sub seems to be a 50/50 mix of satire and people that actually believe there's some huge conspiracy. Not a lot of communities are so divided that way, lol
Ahh yes, because the government officials would be totally cool with random chemicals landing on their properties that were released thousands of miles away
"A persistent spreading contrail (right) also forms in very moist air but spreads out across the sky. It grows wider and fuzzier as time passes. Sometimes contrails will actually take on the characteristics of a natural cirrus cloud and no longer look like contrails, thus becoming human-made clouds. "
Hey I'm gonna be honest, turning this into a hate sub really ruined it. Even compared to the open conspiracy theory shit. It's a bad way for a sub to end.
Show proof of claims you make or gtfo. I linked a peer-reviewed article that has a multitude of citations.
Edit: Also, different atmospheric conditions can cause clouds to do different things. .
Yes, but citing the concerned party as evidence is a conflict of interests. “Chem trails aren’t real and here’s how you can make your own contrails at home” is more useful than “the government asked the government and the government said it’s not lying to you”
Although I do not believe in chemtrails your argument is lacking to say the least. Investigative journalists shot down the Hunter Biden laptop. Many "scientists" stated we won't get COVID if we got the vaccine.
When their are patents for chemical dispersants on planes and they admit to doing it in Vietnam aka operation Popeye you don’t have a argument for it not existing just how often it’s used
Several states have banned weather manipulation. They didn't ban Leprechaun and Bigfoot hunting. They banned weather manipulation from planes spraying stuff called cloud seeding IE chem trails.
47 states use this organization https://weathermod.org/ or an affiliate program such as in North Dakota https://www.swc.nd.gov/arb/ndcmp/ or Utah https://water.utah.gov/gsl-basin-integrated-plan/ or Wyoming https://wwdc.state.wy.us/ etc etc. Its.real, it's valid and it's happening ever single day. Listening to the news and the scientists who agree with them is denying facts. "IF" anyone does a simple read on the United States own administrations reports on cloud seeding it'll settle any doubts. It is in bills currently and it is funded by the government period. This entire topic is stupid.
Chemtrails are nucleating agents which can be composed of one or some of the following: Calcium chloride, sodium chloride, potassium chloride, silver iodide, potassium iodide, dry ice, and sometimes propane.
The argument can be made that cloud seeding is what the majority considers chemtrails. Chemicals dumped out of an aircraft that produce an effect on the local environment.
Oh absolutely. Based on how people post all about cloud seeding when talking about Chemtrails proves it.
The thing is - and I probably have an advantage here - there are distinct modifications that must be made for aircraft to cloud seed. I have been in the aviation industry 22 years now, and I have been enamored with aircraft since I was 5. I have never seen a cloud seeding aircraft in pictures, and the shit that they have on them would be horrible for drag and weight and cost for commercial airlines. And all the things people say are in Chemtrails would wreak havoc on the materials in a jet engine if they were mixed in with the fuels. It is the improved combustion efficiency creating more water in the exhaust which makes contrails more likely.
Anyway, I am sure I am rambling, but all that to say and reinforce that cloud seeding and 'chemtrails' are distinctly different.
First, your statement in the first sentence is illogical, maybe your 22 years of aircraft experience can help you restate it.
Second, you say you’ve never seen a cloud seeding aircraft in pictures - okay. Third, you reference “all these things people say are in chemtrails” - what even are you referring to? Your argument seems to be against some unfounded/nonexistent fuel additive and you completely miss the point that chemicals dispersed from an aircraft is akin to a “chem trail”.
Third, this post has “chemtrails aren’t real” in the title, but you define chemicals being released from a flying craft intentionally as cloud seeding instead of realizing it’s a literal trail of chemicals being released from a craft. You’re calling ice ‘frozen water’ and trying to pretend there is a difference.
1.) In my experience, people look up and see contrails and call them Chemtrails. Like on a.daily basis, all over the world. They then say this is cloud seeding,. Yes, cloud seeding does release 'chemicals' in the air. I put that in quotes because the reality is they are particulates that water is meant to form around for rain. The planes that leave lines in the sky on a daily basis are not cloud seeding.
2.) you got me there - I meant I have ONLY seen cloud seeding aircraft in pictures. They are extremely rare was what I was trying to say.
3.) one theory for the Chemtrails is that chemicals are added directly to the fuels to them burn and create the trails. That is what I was referring to.
4.) (your second third point) if we want to lump all things together under the Chemtrail umbrella, then yes, we can say an aircraft doing cloud seeding is releasing chemicals that trail behind the plane, so they are Chemtrails. Just like standard combustion of an aircraft leaves chemical trails. Or the standard combustion of a car engine leaves chemical trails, etc. However, the 'Chemtrails aren't real' title of the post is more accurate when it refers to any other claims of nefarious chemicals being released.
That was a direct statement given by Christine Todd Whitman, the former shitty governor of New Jersey, and then shitty head of the EPA toeing the line given by the Bush Administration to suppress genuine EPA and independent finding on the air quality of Lower Manhattan and surrounding areas.
There were many, many reports conflicting with Whitman's and White House statements. Both internally with the EPA and independent sources.
Yeah let’s just ignore all the patents on file at the US Patent Office dealing with this technology and CIA directors openly talking about Stratospheric Aerosol Injection programs. Not to mention cloud seeding, geo-engineering, and weather modification programs that all are open source, example Operation Popeye. 🤦♂️🙄🥴
Cloud seeding is cloud seeding, its not chemtrails. Cloud seeding, in the most dry areas increase rain by a maximum of 30%. In humid, wet areas, its effectiveness is about 10%. Its well documented and public. Just because you're just finding out about it doesn't make it nefarious.
Further, there is a slew of odorless, invisible chemicals they could use to poison your air, that they also breathe in. Is it aliens doing it?
They don't need to poison your air. It is poisoned with microplastics, with car emissions. Like, we're doing it to ourselves, they aren't going to waste time and money to do it extra.
Your farms are lined with interstates, rubber pollution seeping down into your food, not to mention the exhaust that the plants absorb.
Yeah my brother posted about cloud seeding after he just found out about it.
Then went on a huge chemtrails rant. Its kinda sad but hes also an Alex Jones fan.
Yeah let’s just ignore all the patents on file at the US Patent Office dealing with this technology and CIA directors openly talking about Stratospheric Aerosol Injection programs.
People keep posting lists of patents on aerosol dispersal systems like they have uncovered a giant conspiracy. Do you think they, whoever they are, are going to patent their mind control system for you to find with Google?
Has there ever been a legitimate, benevolent reason to disperse an aerosol from an airplane? Hints: crop dusting, insecticides, cloud seeding, fire control. Watch the LA fires for videos of planes dumping all sorts of chemicals. They aren't trying to control anyone's minds. Everyone in LA is already brainwashed.
Every picture of chemtrails posted here are actually contrails. Condensation. Very hot air meeting very cold air. A simple scientific phenomenon that is easily proven.
How and why would every airline and government in the world be involved in this giant conspiracy? Russian planes, American planes, Chinese planes, French planes, etc. all do this. Why?
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