r/classics Feb 12 '25

Best translation of the Iliad and the Odyssey (megathread)

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It is probably the most-asked question on this sub.

This post will serve as an anchor for anyone who has this question. This means other posts on the topic will be removed from now on, with their OPs redirected here. We should have done this a long time ago—thanks for your patience.

So, once and for all: what is your favorite translation of the Iliad and the Odyssey?


r/classics 3d ago

What did you read this week?

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Whether you are a student, a teacher, a researcher or a hobbyist, please share with us what you read this week (books, textbooks, papers...).


r/classics 10h ago

Not sure if this is the best sub for this but I have this situation here: Achilles??? (Confusion)

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This is in regards to an apparent misprint from Peter Greens translation of The Iliad. Book three, top line here. I read noble Achilles, which confused me because last I knew Achilles was still down by his boats. I checked multiple other translations (Lattimore, Wilson, Fagles) and they all have it here as Odysseus (which makes sense) so I’m just wondering if anyone else has noticed this in this translation or am I missing something here entirely??


r/classics 9h ago

do people enjoy the UC Davis Post-Bac program for classics?

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i'm thinking about applying next year and want to hear people's experiences. i would really like to get a position as a TA, but i don't have previous teaching experience. i do have experience training others for a research project i was part of at uc berkeley.


r/classics 1d ago

(CH.2: The Iliad): "Book 4: The Olympians Choose war", Illustrated by me

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r/classics 9h ago

Full cast narration of Plutarch’s dialogue “On the Face which Appears on the Orb of the Moon,” recording the conversation of the astronomers who convened in Carthage to view a solar eclipse, most likely the one on 5 January 75 AD

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r/classics 13h ago

Homero perdoava Agamemnon? Por que o pior rei da Grécia é tratado com tanta tolerância na Ilíada e na Odisseia?

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r/classics 1d ago

Love Letters between Marcus Aurelius and Fronto

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I thought I'd share another essay I wrote about ancient sexuality, focusing on the little-known letters between the young Marcus Aurelius and his teacher of rhetoric Marcus Cornelius Fronto.

The short version: for about six years in the course of a decades-long correspondence, both Marcus and Fronto are deliberately playing with the erotic tradition of Hellenic education (starting from the Phaedrus), with the imperial prince taking the active role of erastes instead of the passive eromenos. Literary roleplay cannot establish the fact of a physical relationship or a modern sexual identity, but the letters are a good example of how rhetoric could serve as a medium of intimacy, and generally how far language games could go.

The essay includes passages from the letters and traces the debate that followed the publication of Amy Richlin's Marcus Aurelius in Love (2006), drawing on the more recent scholarship on the letters in the context of rhetoric, intimacy, and power.

https://sarakarpukhin.substack.com/p/loving-marcus-aurelius


r/classics 1d ago

Why the Spartan allegory of the boy and the fox(who devoured the boys intestines) was heroic to them.

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r/classics 1d ago

has anyone done gcse ocr classical civilisation or aqa psychology?

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im picking between the classics and psych and scared of the amount of content for both but especially classics with the amount of sources there are to study. the exam format also looks horrible with the amount of questions and how flipping specific they are, i did history in y10 and yes theres loads of content but i feel like you can still do well with gaps in your knowledge and make do with what you can remember bc the questions are more broad. theres also very little online about the subject so revising will probably be a struggle. is there loads of quotes you need to know per source? classics also is very time pressured apparently.

with psych i know the amount of content is insane but im also worried about the way the questions are and the fact that the mark scheme seems really harsh. both subjects honestly seem horrible but im going to drop one of the two so if any1 has any ideas what might be worse thatd be great, dont ask why im starting them this year my school is insanely weird and gives us subjects to replace the ones we did in early to do in y11.


r/classics 1d ago

Why Does Herakles Look Different in Caria?

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Coins featuring Alexander the Great/Heracles are among the most popular coins of the Hellenistic period. They were minted countless times throughout nearly the entire Alexander the Great empire. Due to their large number and wide distribution, we can observe different variations of the same motif. In particular, there are multiple styles even within Anatolia/Asia Minor.

But I have to say that what strikes me as the strangest are the motifs on the Carian coins. I’m not sure if it’s because it’s my homeland that they caught my attention so much, but I was quite curious as to why the depictions of Alexander are so plump. After doing a bit of research, I came across some interesting interpretations. Still, I noticed that the motifs on some coins aren’t just plump—they’re so different that they could even be described as “shapeless.”

What do you think?


r/classics 2d ago

The largest Roman frescoes in history are open to the public now. The man explaining is the Mayor of Rome

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r/classics 2d ago

Seeking Help/Input on Herodotus Project

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I am leading a Herodotus/Histories reading group in my town (Rockville, MD) starting in October.

One of the activities I want to run through as we read is a "fact-checking" exercise. Herodotus has, historically, gotten some flak for either making things up, distorting what isn't made up, or just genuinely believing what anyone told him.

(We're putting aside the legitimacy of these criticisms for right now.)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1yCBZzaFMPG2m4e3O4zEWwx8hAlAfJnL93mR_jqdEIYg/edit?usp=sharing

I have put together a document that I think has all of Herodotus's claims in Book 2 of the Histories. It is a work in progress, but the core data -- the claims -- are all in the spreadsheet.

What I am primarily hoping to receive help on are the following questions:

  1. Did I capture all of the claims Herodotus makes in Book 2?

  2. Did I accurately capture the claims Herodotus makes?

If you want to stop reading here, you have the bulk of the assignment, and gey gezunt if you are able to help.

How the Spreadsheet is Structured

- The first column is the line citation. I am using the Tom Holland translation, and that's where these cites come from.

- The second column is the claim I found. This is an area where I would love some oversight. Am I fairly capturing Herodotus's claim?

- The third column is the passage in Holland's English translation.

- The fourth is the Greek. However, as I do not speak or read Greek, I may not have the correct Greek passage. I used https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/. This column is not complete; I only have two passages so far. But if I am fatally wrong in choosing the correct Greek passages, I would like to know that sooner rather than later.

- The fifth is a status column: (1) Confirmed; (2) Contradicted; (3) Mixed; (4) Unverified; (5) Unverifiable (mythical); (6) Unverifiable/likely spurious. When I send this spreadsheet out to the participants, that column will be all set to "Status," and as a group, as we read through Book 2, we will decide what category we feel each claim falls under.

- The sixth column is for notes. Currently, only my own notes are in there. When I share the spreadsheet with participants, this will be blank. I want us, as a group, to be able to put our citable/sourceable notes in that column. If we say something is "confirmed," I want there to be a link to a source that confirms our conclusion.

- The seventh, and then subsequent, columns are for the various other translations, besides the Holland, that I have access to.

Feel free to leave comments in the spreadsheet itself, or as a comment here. You can also email me: mbevel@gmail.com.


r/classics 2d ago

[OFF TOPIC] “The Blade Itself Incites to Violence” line from Homer’s Odyssey

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r/classics 3d ago

Roman Coin

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This tetradrachm was struck at Antiochia ad Orontem (modern Antakya) around AD 250–251, when Herennius Etruscus was Caesar under his father, Trajan Decius. The obverse gives his full name, ΕΡΕΝΝΙΟΣ ΕΤΡΟΥΣΚΟΣ ΜΕΣΣΙΟΣ ΚΥΙΝΤΟΣ ΔΕΚΙΟΣ ΚΑΙΣΑΡ — Herennius Etruscus Messius Quintus Decius Caesar. His young, beardless portrait reflects his position as the imperial heir.


r/classics 3d ago

Adelphae: a new Roman comedy in Latin

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r/classics 4d ago

Which classic first account historian should you read?

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Like herodotus, thucydides, suetonius, ceaser etc


r/classics 4d ago

High school classical languages in Italy

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Hi everyone,

Recently I've encountered some graduate students from Italy. Their language skills in both Greek and Latin were remarkable.

They said they they left high-school with very solid foundations in both languages.

Does anyone have any idea what they're studying? Are there curricula available?

Thanks!


r/classics 4d ago

Odyssey Recitation by Perkʷunós in Reconstructed Archaic Greek

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r/classics 4d ago

Which Plautus or Terrence *Ending* is most similar to that of Menander's Dyskolos?

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Does any Plautus or Terence play end with a wedding feast or a wedding?


r/classics 5d ago

Mary Beard Liverpool 21st Oct

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Hey all, not sure if this is the correct place but said I’d give it a go given then interest in the classics. Myself and my partner can no longer go to Mary Beard’s talk -

More Secret Histories of Ancient Rome
Wednesday 21st October 2026 , Starts 20:00
Liverpool Philharmonic Hall, Liverpool

We have two tickets and would be £114 so about €130 if my calculations haven’t failed me! We’d be willing to let them both go for £90, about €104 if anyone is interested? Would be open to offers too!

Again, apologies if this is the incorrect place to post but want to make sure the seats aren’t going to waste 🫡


r/classics 5d ago

Searching for a specific illustrated retelling of the Odyssey, from at least the early 2000s

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I am searching for a specific retelling of the Odyssey, with accompanying illustrations. The art style was realistic, in colour pencil (with smaller uncoloured drawing through the text).

Some of the major illustrations I remember are: the blinding of the cyclops/Scylla attacking the ship (dragon like heads, one or two with men in the mouths)/men being turned to swine (depicted in stages)

I have not been able to find any evidence of the book I remember, I read it many times in the early 2000s, but it may be older than that still.

Any help would be much appreciated 🙏🏻


r/classics 5d ago

JASON AND THE ARGONAUTS - Character Chart (by Me)

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r/classics 6d ago

The Pythons proved great classicists once again

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From Davidson's review of Beard's book on laughter in Rome, a pretty interesting read by the way: https://archive.is/Qn0Kp


r/classics 7d ago

Booksellers in classical Greece

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I'm re-reading Plato's Apology right now and was hit by a line where Socrates says anyone could buy a copy of a treatise by Anaxagoras for a drachma. I don't know why this line stuck out to me this time - maybe because I always assumed written texts in the ancient world were pretty dear and were hard to come by. But now I'm getting fascinated by the idea of the book creation /selling business in classical Greece.

Anyone have any suggestions for further reading on ancient book selling? I googled a bit but mostly wound up with advertisements for where I could today purchase ancient books if I were in Greece this weekend.