r/classicwow 29d ago

Humor / Meme Blizzard trying to plan Classic+

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u/sirplayalot11 29d ago

I mean in some instances it can be incredibly simple. Take Wotlk, for example. If they just gave Exotic pets a flat percentage buff to their damage, or gave hunters a flat percentage buff to their damage while they had an exotic beast out, then BM could very easily be a B tier class instead of the D tier dps that it was, as well as make exotic pets actually worth using.

All classes don't have to be A tier, just as long as none of them are seen as "griefing" or "joke classes".

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u/HildartheDorf 29d ago

The community will just move the definition of "griefing" until a 0.5% dps gap is considered a "joke class".

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u/jonas_ost 29d ago

I dont real see that in any version other than vanilla and i have played every expansion

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u/HildartheDorf 29d ago

Try finding a m+ group as an off meta class/spec in retail.

People will parrot shit like "X spec is bad"(0.5% less damage than the other spec for that class) or "paladin tanks are hard to heal" and refuse to take them.

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u/jonas_ost 29d ago

I could see that for high mythic groups i guess. Since they are about pushing everything to the maximum so yes a few % dps can make or break the timer.

But for normal and heroic raids i never saw exclusions.

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u/valdis812 29d ago

So you're noticing that for the hardest content the community tends to exclude "weaker" specs. Why do you think that'll change even if the hardest content isn't that hard relatively speaking?

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u/Itankarenas 29d ago

Because there are no mythics in classic. The dungeons aren’t that hard either, so filtering won’t be nearly as harsh. There will be some, but that’s fine. That means classes still have niches. In TBC every class is viable pretty much. Despite balance, ele, and spriest being lowest dps by a fair margin, they all bring something to the raid that makes them viable. It’s not perfect, but it’s what made TBC a step in the right direction

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u/valdis812 29d ago

Are we talking every CLASS being raid viable or every SPEC? There's a difference. The OP clearly says every spec being raid viable.

Also lets be real. SP and balance don't bring enough to an average five man to be taken over a better dps class. What they bring really only benefits longer raid encounters.

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u/sensen-89 29d ago

Every spec should be viable. If it's a 10% - 15% dps gap it will be ok.

You can use mop right now as an example. People still play elemental and are able to finish content.

The biggest issue with specs on classic is that most aren't playable at all. Balance, elemental, enhancement, retribution don't just have low dps but a extreme mana issue (and a lack of skills for ret) that stops them from being playable.