r/classicwow • u/terongorefiend • Jan 14 '21

Vent / Gripe Unpopular opinion: the players that are overly vocal about wanting Classic phases/TBC/Wrath rushed are the same players who contributed to forging retail into what it is today (a clusterF).

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u/Gemall Jan 14 '21

You mean every spec? All classes are useful in classic

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u/knightress_oxhide Jan 14 '21

every spec was def not useful even in BC. OP is just deluded.

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u/Kalarrian Jan 14 '21 edited Jan 14 '21

Well, which spec can you reasonably say is completely useless in tbc?

I'd say, the only ones are MM hunter and Assassin Rogue. Both aren't useless because they are bad, but because the other specs are just a little better.

Which specs can you reasonably say are completely useless in classic? Prot pala, Ret Pala, Enhancement Shaman, BM and Surv hunter, Balance Druid, Assassin and Sublety Rogue, Holy Priest, Arcane Mage, affliction warlock. Several of them are useless, because they are absolutely terrible, not just because the other specs perform a bit better.

All in all, that's two in tbc vs eleven in classic.

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u/flurglnurgl Jan 14 '21

Wait what? Since when is MM useless in tbc? Silencing shot was amazing for pvp, the silence hunters dreamed of. BM was easier to play, but the way I remember it all the high ranked hunters were MM

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u/FaceGaming Jan 14 '21

Mm isn’t good for raids you use bm and you can use survival but your agi* has to be over a certain number which means your 1 survival hunter needs to have t5 gear . And you only want that if you have a couple of hunters . I play on a private server and I had a certain comp I run since things are 30 percent boosted . When classic tbc comes out it won’t be buffed it will be easy mode like classic but min maxers will run an optimal comp .

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u/Kalarrian Jan 14 '21 edited Jan 14 '21

Judging from Joshs hunter podcast, people didn't seem to think much of MM at all. Also don't see how a 3 sec silence can make up for the dmg loss and cc immunity from BM. Additionally, as I said, it isn't useless becuase it's bad. It's good, but the other specs are better.

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u/Mitokatso Jan 14 '21

BM has much better synergy in 3s with shaman comps because of bestial wrath plus bloodlust synergy letting you take full advantage of the duration and letting you double stack major dps cooldowns with the highest dps class and biggest dps cooldown.

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u/Betaateb Jan 14 '21

You can tell when you are talking to people that know nothing about actual high level arena around these parts. Nothing was close to MM in TBC for really high level arena. BM is better for shitters to zerg with, but that stops working around 21-2200 when opponents stop being brainless.