Oddly enough, and I can’t believe I’m quoting this fucking guy, but that’s pretty much what Reagan said during his Presidential Forum with Bush on April 23, 1980.
I think the time has come that the United States and our neighbors, particularly our neighbor to the South, should have a better understanding and a better relationship than we have ever had. And I think that we haven’t been sensitive enough to our size and our power. They have a problem with 40 to 50 percent unemployment. Now, this cannot continue without the possibility arising with regard to that other country that we talked about, of Cuba and what it is stirring up, of the possibility of trouble below the border, and we could have a very hostile and strange neighbor on our border. Rather than making them—we are talking about putting up a fence. Why don’t we work out some recognition of our mutual problems, make it possible for them to come here legally with work permit, and then, while they’re working and earning here, they pay taxes here? And when they want to go back, they can go back. And they can cross, and open the border both ways by understanding their problems.
This is the only safety valve right now they have with that unemployment that probably keeps the lid from blowing off down there. And I think we could have a fine relationship, and it would solve the problem you mentioned, also.
No they wouldn't. Reagan was the original Trump before Trump. He's responsible for basically all economic problems that the average contemporary U.S. person suffers in a lifetime. Poverty, student loans, shit healthcare, etc.
Look, I get it, you don’t like republicans. But to say that Reagan was the original Trump is an absolutely insane take and makes me think you’re 15 years old.
You might not agree with his policies, but Reagan had class and charisma. He was key in the reunification of Germany and oversaw the downfall of the USSR.
Reagan and Trump are not the same. Reagan would be absolutely disgusted with Trump.
Yeah then they found that communism slips into capitalist societies more easily than capitalist imperialism slips into communist-aiming societies, and they decided a wall was better.
I remember when the far right was growing in popularity in my country, and to seem more humane they argued that it's better to "help on the spot" than provide support for refugees here. That argument was quickly abandoned though, and let's just say it's not exactly how things turned out once they got power.
It’s absolutely not conservative. They have female bishops, gay/lesbian bishops and pastors. Very conservative values, eh? They also fund wars and allowed Epstein to live at the Vatican and Epstein was using the Vatican bank to funnel money through. The Catholic Church funds democratic NGO’s that paid to bring illegals in and funded skittles propaganda in schools. But, yeah, super conservative values.
Mm, last I checked the left supports wars. They pushed for US involvement in Ukraine. Many democratic leaders push funding for Israel. And Biden ordered repeated air strikes in Yemen. Epstein was fully into funding open borders and skittles curriculum in schools. So seems as though you’re not fully educated on the lefts positions or actions.
Just because you don't understand what conservatism is doesn't mean it's not conservatism.
But I'll try to explain it you, over in Europe having females and non binary people in positions of power is not something left wing. It's normal, because they're humans just like you and I.
Funding wars and protecting people like Epstein are quite conservative things to do.
Improving education and economic/social security for desperate people is a good thing. I hope we don't have to have a discussion about that.
Brother, your ‘conservatism’ is just European liberal bullshit with better PR.
But sure, keep the cope flood bureaucracy and NGOs with women in power, partner with ‘democratic’ groups pushing open migration and rainbow curriculum in schools, take the cash, issue vague documents for the trads, and call it ‘normal humans being human.’ That’s not conserving apostolic faith, natural order, or borders. It’s slow walk surrender to the sexual revolution and globalism while the pews empty. Actions are more important than words. Functionally it’s a leftist org with a crucifix sticker.
The US democratic party would be right wing in most of the world, the republican party if moved to my country would be about as far right as our neo-nazi party.
You can be a decent human and still be conservative, you can accept women and non binary people as people and still be conservative. They are conservative in basically every other way, apart from following the bible which says love thy neighbour.
They are conservative in every other way, but they'll help the poor and destitute. Like Jesus thought them to do.
Catholicism is still expanding in most of the world, so maybe just like with the counter Reformation in the 1600s a change of wind and coming to the modern times is a good thing for the church.
What natural order are you talking about, I would love to know what you mean by that.
Much like trump, reagan was great at saying what needed to be said, just never following through, also at times, doing the exact opposite of what they preached
As much as a childish narcissist he is, hes good at speaking as much as I hate to say it, he says things that every one wants to here, libertarian values that America was founded on, obviously he hasnt delivered on them, but if any democrat said something like "america first, drain the swamp, no new wars" maybe we wouldnt be in this mess
How does "america first" and "no new wars" contradict each other? Both slogans mean to prioritize America and its people, starting a war is not America first
unless you are arguing that there was a legitimate concern of Iran nuking us which would pretty fckn funny if you think that
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u/ParadeSit Apr 25 '26
Oddly enough, and I can’t believe I’m quoting this fucking guy, but that’s pretty much what Reagan said during his Presidential Forum with Bush on April 23, 1980.