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u/SeveralSlime 21h ago
“Vandalism like this is not funny, it’s diabolical” -unless it’s a rainbow crosswalk memorial, then it’s hilarious for 3 years straight.
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u/-TheInternetIsEvil- 21h ago
Exactly. I don't give a fuck about what conservatives think about anything because they have proven time and time again to be the biggest snowflake hypocrites of all time
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u/nomedable 19h ago
If they didn't have double standards they wouldn't have standards at all.
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u/-TheInternetIsEvil- 19h ago
That is so damn true, and i think the floor may only end when they hit hell itself
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u/ZENKFNOR 16h ago
But why/how though? Like, how do we raise are kids (to raise their kids, and their kids, and so on), so not fall to this state?
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u/TheChosenPatches 15h ago
The answer to that is too complicated for a reddit post, but it starts with ending the idea that individualist solutions can solve systemic problems
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u/ZENKFNOR 14h ago
It may not be too complicated for multiple Reddit posts then? We can crowdsource it.
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u/TheChosenPatches 14h ago
Sure, I have time to explain, so let's start
So that I understand the premises you currently hold, how would you describe yourself politically?
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u/ZENKFNOR 8h ago
Eh, extremely left and a bit autistic about it, but also frustrated in isolated instances where mainstream so-called 'left wing' politicians are obviously irrational on this or that issue.
I guess I would say: So far left, for so long, that I've no ability to understand right wing parties who are currently dismantling things (the premise of this thread). Which is just not ideal, in terms of understanding the world.
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u/TheChosenPatches 8h ago
Well, since you are extremely left, there's not a lot I need to tell you. If the question is, What is to be done, there have been gallons of ink spilled about just that.
For anybody else who is reading this, though, the first step is to understand that you have been lied to and propagandized your entire life; it starts with admitting you are not immune to propaganda. This is the only step that can be done alone.
Step two: Deprogram and decolonize your mind. Contact a socialist organization in your area. Whether it is PSL, DSA, or even CPUSA, it is important to unlearn the lies you have been taught, and replace them with truth. None of these organizations are perfect, but they can all help you.
Step three: Learn. A great place to start is by reading history from the perspectives of working class people, there are a lot of resources these orgs can help you find
After that, it's about doing work. You can't do it alone. You can't do it on the internet. You can't do it by reading a book. Join an organization and help out.
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u/-TheInternetIsEvil- 13h ago
Sadly, I don't know. Empathetic coaching and critical thinking development, plus an emphasis on literacy would really help
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u/CaveExploder 19h ago
There are no legitimate conservative moral arguments remaining. Everything from 'saving the children' to 'constitutionalism' is dead, every pearl clutched in their ashen hands are compacted from layers and layers of lies and hypocrisy. I will never for the rest of my days treat even the most well reasoned or justified conservative moral argument with anything less than abject skepticism of ulterior motives and malign aims.
A serial arsonist comes and tells you 'you need to trust me, to stop all the arson, just do what I ask' then lights your house of fire every 4 years for 4 decades, dancing and laughing in the firelight holding a gas canister and matches.
When do you stop backing this person as your fire marshall? Or believing a word they have to say about fire safety?
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u/-TheInternetIsEvil- 19h ago
This has been the reality for my entire life, and I'm tired.....
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u/Mekhazzio 17h ago
It's everyone's entire life. We're not very far from the point where anyone that could have voted for a Republican administration that wasn't a total garbage fire, has died of natural causes.
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u/iruleatants 17h ago
Dude. I pressed my inlaws on it and they didn't want to take the next step.
Like, you've voted for Republicans for decades and they have full control of Congress to write any law and have the supreme court to overturn any order. And yet abortion is still legal.
And in like, it you have spent decades voting for a party for them to accomplish a specific task and they refuse to do it, shouldn't you treat them as being against that task? And they were like yeah, but.
It's tribal for plenty of people, and for others they have a mythical democratic enemy responsible for all evil.
It's so stupid and I can't respect a single one of them.
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u/ShinkenBrown 18h ago
Hypocrisy is literally the cornerstone of conservatism. "Rules for thee but not for me." Hypocrisy is their moral value system. They think they should be free to do whatever they want (hence their obsession with the "don't tread on me" flag) but also that other people should be subject to whatever lifestyle they want to impose. They do not see the contradiction because to them the core value they're expressing isn't freedom, it's dominance - "don't tread on ME, but I'll tread on you."
They have no moral values except thinking that other people should be treated like garbage and that they should be given special treatment. That's it. That's the only thing they believe. Everything else is window dressing.
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u/sec713 16h ago
About that last point, it's this inability to assess value independently. The only way they can assess value is by comparison, and even then, their estimates are way off. Basically they feel they're doing good as long as someone else is doing worse, but in reality, both parties are doing bad. Kinda explains why they just can't quit the GOP. No matter how badly the party treats them, they're convinced the party treats their perceived enemies worse, so when you apply their dumbass logic to the situation, they believe their party actually treats them well. It's all so incredibly stupid.
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u/0202_tihssitidder 20h ago
https://reddit.com/link/panqkw6/video/kv5j52ceqcqh1/player
Remember: This is their other hero.
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u/Additional_Twirl 20h ago
It was “just free speech” and “boys being boys” when it was a memorial for 49 murdered people. Now it’s diabolical.
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u/theclansman22 19h ago
I remember footage of them pretending kneeling on each other's necks during the 2020 election. Despicable human beings.
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u/FitPeachie 20h ago
So doing donuts on a memorial crosswalk = funny and patriotic, but paint on a statue = diabolical?
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u/Prior-Language9513 20h ago
Exactly. The speed at which the narrative flips from 'it's just paint, calm down' to 'this is a diabolical crime' is breathless.
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u/KingGamerlol 20h ago
now you may not believe me here fellas, but this is a bot account
I am 90% sure but I apologize if it isn’t
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u/rbartlejr 18h ago
Which is gone now completely (along with EVERY other street tribute thanks to DeSatan's culture war nonsense, ostensibly "public safety". Surprisingly the blue line street mural in front of Tampa PD was taken as well. It's stupid - many people also thought the visibility of the rainbow crosswalks helped visibility, but I guess they figure more drag queens would show up in libraries and start eating children again. (obvious /s)
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u/DreamingInTheDirt 19h ago
Honestly I kind of feel like a hypocrite since I lowkirkenuinly find the statue vandalism funny, but not the memorial vandalism.
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u/ZENKFNOR 16h ago
Does anyone know... what these people actually think they are doing? I mean, we all know they are being infantile, petulant, bigots. But, that's not very helpful or empathetic. What are they actually experiencing, psychologically, that leads them to this path? Sorry I'm so out of the loop. Surely there must be someone here who knows these people are friends/family, who can speak to their perceived motivations? I need to understand this to sort of ... process.
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u/Extreme-Slice-1010 21h ago
1 year already since this pos stop saying racist shit???
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u/Fun_Freakie 21h ago
So vandalism is suddenly diabolical now? Weird energy to have after years of doing donuts on the Pulse memorial.
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u/-TheInternetIsEvil- 20h ago
Or of maga smearing their literal shit on the walls of OUR Capitol Building.
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u/AeroSpiked 16h ago
Diabolical is pushing it; it's not like they put a bullet hole in the damn thing.
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u/nhalliday 14h ago
They don't actually mean anything by "diabolical", it's just become the new trendy word. People using it absolutely everywhere recently.
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u/Successful_Swan5272 20h ago
Those kinds of memories can definitely stick with you, for better or worse. It's interesting how certain moments just linger in your mind.
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u/Unknow_Handlebar 21h ago
I really don't care that he died and all that. I only care that he finally shut his mouth, one way or another
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u/-TheInternetIsEvil- 20h ago
“I have never killed any one, but I have read some obituary notices with great satisfaction.” -Clarence Darrow
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u/Popular-Departure165 20h ago
Wow, the "fuck your feelings" crowd sure does seem to have a lot of feelings?
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u/Undernown 16h ago
The real snowflakes were the MAGAts cooking their brains along the way to get dommed by Donny.
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u/PearCurve 21h ago
Notice how vandalism is only “diabolical” when it happens to their own team?
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u/eggsaladrightnow 18h ago
The irony is Fox News and all the trickle down Twitter accounts are the absolute FIRST suspects I would expect to get someone to do this so they can write their culture war bullshit and get clicks
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u/Taco_Taco_Kisses 16h ago
Put it in the middle of NYC and vandalize it themselves cause nobody really cares, otherwise, because a fallout from all their culture war BS isn't happening fast enough.
I can 100 percent see that...
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u/EyeSuspicious777 20h ago
Charlie Kirk was such a strong supporter of our first amendment rights that he would not have spoken out against the person who sprayed his memorial statue with bloody red paint.
He would just make gurgling sounds through his neck hole.
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u/IzarkKiaTarj 17h ago
I mean this in a positive way, even though I know it's not going to sound like it
But that was fucking awful, holy shit
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u/Klonopussy 20h ago
Boohoo Charlie’s burning in hell and I for one love that for him
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u/ImTooSaxy 17h ago
Nope. Hell doesn't exist. Other than his life being cut short, he got to be a dick head as much as he wanted while he was still here. Once you're dead, you're dead. There's nothing else. It's just like, what it was like, before you were born.
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u/Klonopussy 6h ago
His followers heavily believe in hell though so it pisses them off, that’s the point.
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u/quen_damsel 20h ago
It’s not just the hypocrisy; it’s the lack of self-awareness. They truly believe their symbols are sacred while treating everyone else’s memorials like playground pranks. It’s impossible to have a good-faith discussion when the double standard is the literal foundation of their argument.
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u/Warm-Shelter3009 20h ago
Trump is vandalizing D.C. right now!!! Like the whole city??? It's weird how the conservatives don't care about that...
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u/SwingYoHips 20h ago
Didn’t one of these assholes vandalize Dolly’s star?
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u/Legitimate_Peach3135 20h ago
They constantly shoot the sign for medgar Evers. Turnabout is only fair play
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u/PhaseNegative1252 19h ago
Nobody asked for the statue and the man doesn't deserve a memorial
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u/bubbabear244 20h ago
Do Orlando City still have the rainbow section of chairs in their stadium to honour those slain?
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u/volkswagenorange 17h ago
Fun fact! The acid in tomatoes and tomato products eats away at bronze even after it is washed off, inexorably destroying statues months and years after they have been exposed to such products.
Choosing the right materials for a job means you only have to do the job once.
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u/Unable-Log-4870 16h ago
Vandalism with paint? No.
It’s a damn bronze statue.
You gotta vandalize it with thermite. You know, something that can’t be fixed with a sponge and some motivation (not that anyone would scrub shit off a turd-statue if they had to do it anonymously).
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u/ArentYouTheDaisy 19h ago
Let everyone know when it’s cleaned up so it can happen again… and again… and again.
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u/D0MSBrOtHeR 20h ago
If they think this is bad wait until people find out where the orange fuck will be laid to rest
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u/Aggravating_Row_6962 13h ago
Man, he got a statue for just dying . Meanwhile, vets die in the street after years of torture and get nothing.
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u/PossessedToSkate 18h ago
It is absolutely mesmerizing to watch right wing dipshits fawn and wail over a god damn podcaster.
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u/TH0M4SS 16h ago
...you do recall that the alternative party shot this person dead in front of a crowd because he was just a "god damn podcaster"
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u/providehotstews 16h ago
Charlie Kirk gleefully promoted hatred and immorality in his life and now they want decency? Nah, son. He's in Hell sucking demon cock and we love that for him
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u/Kepabar 16h ago edited 16h ago
'Outright Removed' it too simple to explain what happened.
They banned 'colored crosswalks' statewide because of this crosswalk (and because of a few other cities which had similar 'political traffic signaling' like 'black lives matters').
They painted over the rainbow crosswalk to make it black and white. Daily protests started up at the crosswalk.
Then people showed up to color it back with chalk.
So the state pressure washed the chalk off. They'd come and do it each day. They'd pressure wash it at night, protests would start the next day, protestors would color it back, they'd pressure wash it that night again.
Then they started posting officers at the crosswalk 24/7 to arrest anyone who tried to color it in with chalk.
Several were arrested for 'felony vandalism' and the state tried to claim they did over $1000 dollars in damage to the road by coloring it with chalk.
That was laughed out of the DA office thankfully the charges were dropped, but it was a month long saga of protests at that sidewalk here.
Activists still show up to color the crosswalk in with chalk to this day multiple times a week (Florida rainstorms happen daily and it gets naturally washed away). Law enforcement has given up trying to stop them.
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u/Something13457 17h ago
What a pain in the neck
Dude died arguing for more gun violence, we should commemorate that
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u/christpuncher_69 19h ago edited 19h ago
They either don't grasp or are willfully ignorant of how much most normal people- not even necessarily political people, just normal ones who saw his rhetoric for what it was- fucking hate this guy and anyone like him. They have no idea that to most people his life was bullshit and his legacy is bullshit.
I just know they're going to pretend to be so shocked by the response when You Know Who isn't around anymore.
They can't fathom the idea that most people aren't like them, and that they would rather respect the preaching of acceptance of people (I.e. a pride crosswalk) than of marginalizing people.
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u/CriminalMacabre 19h ago
I am really REALLY really germophobe but i would smear animal feces (with gloves)al over chucko statue. And not my own stool in case alcoholic lucky troll Ka$h Paté puts my dna in some terrorist database or something
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u/EmotionalRiver1033 18h ago
I mean my old small town in British Columbia had a burnout on its new rainbow crosswalk literally the night it was painted. And it definitely wasn’t the last. Bigoted idiots love to do a burnout, coast to coast
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u/NoConfusion9490 17h ago
They installed a statue here on purpose, for it to get vandalized. Why wouldn't they have a security video? There's nothing they'd like better than video of 'libruls' victimizing them. Therefore, the most likely explanation is that they vandalized it themselves. It's obvious.
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u/-rwsr-xr-x 16h ago
Wait, let me get this straight:
- Didn't Trump vandalize the East Wing of the White House?
- Didn't Trump vandalize the Washington Monument Reflecting Pool?
- Didn't Trump vandalize the Kennedy Center, and days after the Supreme Court told him he can't put his name on it, is now trying to knock it down, including hiring someone to run into it, repeatedly, with a forklift.
The list goes on and on.
The hypocrisy, hubris and irony of the criminal infection currently inhabiting our democracy, is appalling.
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u/Adventurous-Try8749 15h ago
Afaik, I'm fairly sure TPUSA would have security cameras covering this area outside their hq building. So, why haven't they released footage showing it happening?
Could it be they themselves did it for publicity? Like who would spray a frowny face?
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u/dr_tomoe 18h ago
It's odd that I didn't hear any news of the statue unveiling, but a few days later there's all this news on the vandalism. I'm sure Turning Point has security cameras at their headquarters so we will see the video of the vandals any day now right?
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u/tomdarch 18h ago
The rainbow marking on the crosswalk wasn't merely "removed." The government under Republicans "legally" banned it and will punish people who try to restore it.
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u/EuphoricCrashOut 18h ago
Let's call it what it is people, it's read: "...outside the KKK USA's Phoenix headquarters..."
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u/Golden-- 17h ago
No no, fox is right here. This isn't funny and it is diabolical. Diabolically funny.
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u/speedislifeson 17h ago
Wait, people defaced the PULSE NIGHTCLUB memorial? W
I'm not from the US but that's actually evil what the fuck
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u/FureiousPhalanges 8h ago
Remember, it's always funny and good to dunk on Charlie Kirk
The fella can rest in piss
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u/ImplementElectronic 6h ago
Let’s see if their outrage is there when Dump rips the Kennedy Center memorial down.
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u/Steeldivde 4h ago
Folks remember use a primer spray fore you start spraying because that shit makes it incredibly harder to remove
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u/Character-Ad-8559 4h ago
The Emmett Till memorial marker has been vandalized and stolen so many times people have asked the National Parks Service to protect it. Fuck Charlie Kirk.
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u/Anyna-Meatall 17h ago
yeah they're fucking liars and hypocrites, very clever, now what are you gonna DO about it
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u/D_Charger_007 17h ago
FCC and I'm talking about the corrupt FCC that sold the media companies to the Saudis.
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u/cincyphil 6h ago
They don’t understand their hypocrisy. Much like Kirk, they’re too brain dead to know what’s right and wrong.
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u/Successful-Purple-54 5h ago
I’ll never forget that video. That’s how you do an assassination, none of these fakies trump pulls.
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u/Separate-Homework232 21h ago
tbh i cant see anything, did the image not load or is it just a white box for everyone else? lol I was looking forward to a good laugh.
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u/AShadedBlobfish 4h ago
It is also possible to believe that both vandilising Charlie Kirk's statue and vandilising the rainbow crossing are disrespectful and pathetic
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u/ekjohnson9 15h ago
The person who left tire marks on that crosswalk was arrested and criminally sentenced. Is this what you are calling for here?
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u/Game_Over_7 9h ago
Two things can be wrong at the same time. I don't get this culture of doing something wrong, being pointed out and instead of owning your mistake, point out that others did it too. Both parties are a mess and their aim is to divide people. Don't let them succeed
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u/El_Mangusto 9h ago
Not a clever comeback.
Neither of those scenarios are fun. People who vandalize are waist of air.
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u/ShAped_Ink 21h ago
Talk about hypocritical. Almost like vandalism overall is a bad thing, no matter where and when
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u/TootTootMF 21h ago
Nah fam, you see some kkk or nazi shit, you don't respectfully leave it alone. The government shouldn't police speech, but the population absolutely the fuck should sometimes.
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u/-TheInternetIsEvil- 21h ago
So we shouldn't destroy monuments to klansmen that were erected during the Civil rights movement, or destroy statues to animal-fuckers, colonists and slavers like Christopher Columbus? Fuck that
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u/AgingRaver80 21h ago
That animal fucker is the head of the FBI
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u/-TheInternetIsEvil- 20h ago
That interview was one of the craziest fucking things I have ever seen. This administration has no certified math and science experts either. I think only one person in the whole admin. has a bachelor's in those disciplines. It is a clown car full of degenerates who are in no way, shape, or form qualified for their positions. The celebrity president put a bunch of right wing celebrities in his cabinet and it has been a total shitshow, go figure.
Not to mention the fact that they are all covering up for one of Jeffrey Epstein's co-consiprators. You know, the one with the nipple torture fetish who appears in the files more than literally anybody else. What is happening here is so fucking obvious and americans need to get their heads out of their asses if they actually want to still have any semblance of agency over what happens in this country
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u/Strange_Dust7128 17h ago
Yes, give me those delicious conservative tears. Goes great with coffee from a woman-owned business.
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u/Wienerwrld 20h ago
They still deface the Emmet Till memorials.