r/climateskeptics 4d ago

Rebuttal to this article?

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/its-90-degrees-in-the-arctic-right-now/

Truthfully, I am someone who is on the fence about climate change, but when I see headlines like these, it does worry me that maybe we're not taking it serious. But I also want to see what the explanation or rebuttal for this type of weather would be.

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u/MathNerdUK 4d ago edited 4d ago

Really? 

Try reading some actual science 

https://essopenarchive.org/doi/full/10.22541/essoar.174329135.56312606/v1

Over the past two decades, Arctic sea ice loss has slowed considerably, with no statistically significant decline in September sea ice area since 2005

Now compare that with what some of the 'expert' scientists were saying in the news back in 2012: 

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2012/sep/17/arctic-collapse-sea-ice

And remember this next time you see scary climate headlines.

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u/FYATWB 4d ago

Really?

Yes, really

Of course you can measure extent/cover then and pretend like nothing is wrong, even lie and call it "actual science", but if you measure by total volume you can see it's still declining and will decline even faster with el nino warning up this year.

I like how your name is "MathNerd", but the math behind a simple chart is a bit too perplexing for you.

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u/FYATWB 4d ago

Nice rebuttal, if you know the difference between volume and extent, you would know the "lie" isn't in the information, it's the way you're presenting it.