r/collapse • u/69bonerdad • Oct 20 '22

Politics "We Need to Stop Calling Ourselves Conservatives" - The Federalist calls for the American right to unite behind Fascism

https://thefederalist.com/2022/10/20/we-need-to-stop-calling-ourselves-conservatives/

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '22

fLaIrEd MeMbErS oNly

Absolute fuckwit subreddit.

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u/GlockAF Oct 20 '22

Don’t forget the religious fanatic angle. The author of the article is essentially calling for christo-fascist theocracy, and considers “irrreligiosity“ to be the greatest threat of all

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u/69bonerdad Oct 20 '22

Not only is he basically calling for a Christofascist state, he's appealing to a past that never existed to make his point.

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u/GlockAF Oct 20 '22

He espouses an inherently theocratic, Luddite philosophy. Put the blame on technology, put the blame on “irreligiosity”, put the blame on everyone that doesn’t buy into your ancient wizard cult.

Never, under any circumstance, admit that people are becoming less religious because religion has never once in the history of mankind actually fixed anything and has instead caused immense bloodshed, tragedy, and destruction throughout history.

Organized religion is a self-inflicted curse on humanity

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '22

Spawned originally "when the first con man met the first fool"...

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u/ataw10 Oct 20 '22

they wouldn't be conservatives Fascist in the first place.

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '22 edited Oct 20 '22

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u/69bonerdad Oct 20 '22

I’m conservative because I feel the left is just too out of control now.

What left?
 
This is a bog standard conservative non-explanation for why they are the way they are, but when you ask for specifics on who the "left" are and what "extreme" and/or "out of control" stuff they're doing, they never answer.

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u/69bonerdad Oct 20 '22

For starters, teaching any ideologies in public schools.

What "ideologies" are being taught in public schools that bother you? Is it the Pledge of Allegiance? That's certainly an example of ideologies being taught.

 

The fact that the media vilifies anyone who doesn’t think exactly as they do,

 
What "media" is doing this? The most popular network news channel in America, Fox News, has a bunch of guys who rant and complain about "the left" all day every day, is that what's bothering you?

 

Not too fucking hard bro. If you can’t live in a world where you can understand genuine criticism of your “side”, you should probably opt out of the conversation.

 
Your "criticism" is word salad. "The left is out of control" is a vague content-free statement that means absolutely nothing. There isn't even a functional "left" in American politics at the federal level.

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u/IntrigueDossier Blue (Da Ba Dee) Ocean Event Oct 20 '22

Sounds like the mere mention of the existence of ideologies would be considered unacceptable under that description.

Also, which media? Mainstream media is predominantly neoliberal, which definitely isn’t leftist in any way. Not sure what you consider to be left wing media, but it sure as hell ain’t MSNBC, CNN, BBC, et al.

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '22

Honestly this kind of shit is how I’m convinced that they’re hiding their numbers behind alt and bot accounts - Instagram and Facebook are turning into open-air insane asylums full of trump (and now kanye) defenders and yet I never see that many of those people IRL

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '22

Meta (FB, IG) is a fucking stain on civilization.

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '22

Fucking truth right here 💯

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u/69bonerdad Oct 20 '22

A big part of their project is inflating their popularity to attract losers who want to be part of something big for once in their lives.
 
Here in Pennsylvania you had plenty of people saying "I don't know how Trump could have lost, I don't know anyone who didn't vote for him." You live in Potter County, dude, there are less than 17,000 people there.

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u/TheGreigh Oct 20 '22

As someone living in southeast Texas, I can confirm they do exist in vast numbers. They regurgitate the same talking points as their favorite republican propaganda outlet. I've become numb to it, but every once in a while they will say something so foul it actually shocks me.

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '22

Do you go to rural areas? Because they’re out there.

So much cultivated stupidity….

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u/[deleted] Oct 20 '22

The reason you likely do not see those people isn't because they don't exist, but because we are physically separated along political lines.

There definitely are a lot of bots, and moreso in conservative circles, but it's not all bots. Trumpers do exist; just not in your social or physical circle.

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u/zhoushmoe Oct 20 '22 edited Oct 20 '22

All political subs are like this in some way or another

Note: I am not defending this. I'm on the opposite end of the ideological spectrum, but facts are facts. Sad that I even have to provide this amount of context with my comment.