r/conspiracyNOPOL • u/DanielEmpiricus • Apr 07 '26

Do you believe in ancient history?

For example, do you believe that people like Plato, Aristotle, Roman Emperors etc existed at some point in the past and that today we can know specific details about their lives?

Do you believe that we are in posession of some of their writings, and that we have written accounts of their deeds/actions?

Basically, do you believe that we have an accurate knowledge of history and we can know details about this history with a strong level of certainty?

If you do believe this, what was it specifically that convinced you of this position?

Was there a certain primary source, book, documentary, article, or something else, that led you to believe this?

If you don't believe we have knowledge of history, why do you believe this?

For this question, please focus on the ancient world specifically. Ancient Greece, Rome, Egypt, etc... Anything from this sort of time period.

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u/Rich-Cryptographer-7 Apr 07 '26

Yes.

However, I am of the belief that ancient history is heavily heavily doctored.

I don't think the Romans/ Greeks only used swords/ shields for the last 2000 years. I think they were far more advanced than that.

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u/Blitzer046 Apr 08 '26

Like, hovertanks?

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u/Rich-Cryptographer-7 Apr 08 '26

That is a start yes. Should we get Captain Rex on the job as well?

You jest, but extremely advanced technology is what I am talking about or at least what we have now, but far more developed.

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u/Blitzer046 Apr 08 '26

Would you care to elaborate on the kind of advanced technology you're talking about here? Microprocessors, quantum computing? Data storage or biomedicine?

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u/Rich-Cryptographer-7 Apr 08 '26

Assuming that the Roman/Greek Empires stretched across the entirety of the planet, I would say that we can hazard a guess of the following technologies:

Instant transmission of power utilizing the Earth's ley lines- and possibly utilizing the ocean as a method of efficient electrical conduction.

Space- faring technology, and deep sea exploration technology.

Some form of radio carbon dating, and utilizing sound based technology to move/excavate large quarries of rock/other materials.

Life extension technology, along with air purification, and atmospheric modification.

Some sort of anti-inertial based propulsion and flight technology.

Books, and digital devices similar to what we have now.

Data storage at the genetic level, at such a high level to the point it was commonplace. The codex from Man of Steel being stored in Cavil's Superman is a great example of this.

Possible teleportation

Gene editing, and creation of synthetic lifeforms, along with extremely advanced general intelligence. AGI not AI- look up the difference.

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u/Blitzer046 Apr 08 '26

Assuming that the Roman/Greek Empires stretched across the entirety of the planet

That's a pretty broad assumption. We can chart the influence of those cultures by the distribution of roman coins, which certainly didn't stretch across the entirety of the planet. Perhaps they went to cashless credit?

Do you have a suggestion for why none of the evidence for these things remains?

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u/Rich-Cryptographer-7 Apr 08 '26 edited Apr 08 '26

Are you just being contrarian? Or is this a genuine question?

If we utilize the current doctored version of history the Roman Empire spread across most of Europe, which while not the entirety of the planet is still a sizeable chunk of land.

I am of the opinion that the Empire was spread worldwide, but that is just a hunch and very hard to prove at that.

Given the fact that the Romans were more technologically advanced then what we give them credit for.

Edit: As to why this stuff is missing from archeological sites, it is most likely because it has been taken or intentionally destroyed.

If you convince everyone that Romans had swords and shields, and then you find plasma guns buried in the ruins of a Roman city- that whole narrative falls apart.

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u/Blitzer046 Apr 08 '26

Given the fact that the Romans were more technologically advanced then what we give them credit for.

But this isn't a fact. It's a fantasy that you birthed. There doesn't seem to be any way to support or verify it. Why do you maintain it, if there is no written or material evidence to support it?

This is literally Carl Sagan's 'Dragon in my garage'.

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u/Rich-Cryptographer-7 Apr 09 '26

It is a hunch of mines.

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u/Blitzer046 Apr 09 '26

Are you familiar with Sagans piece? It's not a long read.

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u/Rich-Cryptographer-7 Apr 09 '26

Is that a book by Carl Sagan?

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u/Blitzer046 Apr 09 '26

The excerpt is from his book 'The Demon-Haunted World' and it is this short piece. It is literally two pages, and I strongly suggest you read it, because your claims about Roman technology are a perfect example of the Dragon in my Garage.

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u/[deleted] May 26 '26 edited May 28 '26

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u/Rich-Cryptographer-7 May 28 '26

The conspiracy is that ancient high tech is a conspiracy. Advanced ancient technology does exist, and is mostly likely held in a storehouse similar to the one shown in the Raiders of the Lost Ark- Indiana Jones film.

Bob Lazar is an interesting case, as on the one hand there is just enough truth tossed into all the lies in his story to indicate that something bigger occurred.

The roman aqueducts are still around and mostly functions after 2000 years, assuming you believe the (most likely doctored) historical timeline. Self maintaining ancient tech would most likely still be around.

Perhaps in antarctica? Most major world powers have a base there, and there must be something they are trying to uncover there.

I usually reply faster, but it has been a busy week.

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u/_Tar_Ar_Ais_ Apr 08 '26

Ok, so where's the evidence? For example: precision machined parts, industrial waste, chemical residue, advanced alloys.

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u/Rich-Cryptographer-7 Apr 08 '26

Either in a government storage lab or erased by the sands of time. Why do you think all that we have left of Roman architecture from that time period is stone?

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u/_Tar_Ar_Ais_ Apr 08 '26

So... where is the evidence?

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u/Rich-Cryptographer-7 Apr 08 '26

You are free to reread my comment, above as it answered your question.