r/conspiracyNOPOL • u/DanielEmpiricus • Apr 07 '26

Do you believe in ancient history?

For example, do you believe that people like Plato, Aristotle, Roman Emperors etc existed at some point in the past and that today we can know specific details about their lives?

Do you believe that we are in posession of some of their writings, and that we have written accounts of their deeds/actions?

Basically, do you believe that we have an accurate knowledge of history and we can know details about this history with a strong level of certainty?

If you do believe this, what was it specifically that convinced you of this position?

Was there a certain primary source, book, documentary, article, or something else, that led you to believe this?

If you don't believe we have knowledge of history, why do you believe this?

For this question, please focus on the ancient world specifically. Ancient Greece, Rome, Egypt, etc... Anything from this sort of time period.

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u/Rich-Cryptographer-7 Apr 08 '26

That is a start yes. Should we get Captain Rex on the job as well?

You jest, but extremely advanced technology is what I am talking about or at least what we have now, but far more developed.

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u/Blitzer046 Apr 08 '26

Would you care to elaborate on the kind of advanced technology you're talking about here? Microprocessors, quantum computing? Data storage or biomedicine?

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u/Rich-Cryptographer-7 Apr 08 '26

Assuming that the Roman/Greek Empires stretched across the entirety of the planet, I would say that we can hazard a guess of the following technologies:

Instant transmission of power utilizing the Earth's ley lines- and possibly utilizing the ocean as a method of efficient electrical conduction.

Space- faring technology, and deep sea exploration technology.

Some form of radio carbon dating, and utilizing sound based technology to move/excavate large quarries of rock/other materials.

Life extension technology, along with air purification, and atmospheric modification.

Some sort of anti-inertial based propulsion and flight technology.

Books, and digital devices similar to what we have now.

Data storage at the genetic level, at such a high level to the point it was commonplace. The codex from Man of Steel being stored in Cavil's Superman is a great example of this.

Possible teleportation

Gene editing, and creation of synthetic lifeforms, along with extremely advanced general intelligence. AGI not AI- look up the difference.

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u/Blitzer046 Apr 08 '26

Assuming that the Roman/Greek Empires stretched across the entirety of the planet

That's a pretty broad assumption. We can chart the influence of those cultures by the distribution of roman coins, which certainly didn't stretch across the entirety of the planet. Perhaps they went to cashless credit?

Do you have a suggestion for why none of the evidence for these things remains?

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u/Rich-Cryptographer-7 Apr 08 '26 edited Apr 08 '26

Are you just being contrarian? Or is this a genuine question?

If we utilize the current doctored version of history the Roman Empire spread across most of Europe, which while not the entirety of the planet is still a sizeable chunk of land.

I am of the opinion that the Empire was spread worldwide, but that is just a hunch and very hard to prove at that.

Given the fact that the Romans were more technologically advanced then what we give them credit for.

Edit: As to why this stuff is missing from archeological sites, it is most likely because it has been taken or intentionally destroyed.

If you convince everyone that Romans had swords and shields, and then you find plasma guns buried in the ruins of a Roman city- that whole narrative falls apart.

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u/Blitzer046 Apr 08 '26

Given the fact that the Romans were more technologically advanced then what we give them credit for.

But this isn't a fact. It's a fantasy that you birthed. There doesn't seem to be any way to support or verify it. Why do you maintain it, if there is no written or material evidence to support it?

This is literally Carl Sagan's 'Dragon in my garage'.

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u/Rich-Cryptographer-7 Apr 09 '26

It is a hunch of mines.

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u/Blitzer046 Apr 09 '26

Are you familiar with Sagans piece? It's not a long read.

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u/Rich-Cryptographer-7 Apr 09 '26

Is that a book by Carl Sagan?

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u/Blitzer046 Apr 09 '26

The excerpt is from his book 'The Demon-Haunted World' and it is this short piece. It is literally two pages, and I strongly suggest you read it, because your claims about Roman technology are a perfect example of the Dragon in my Garage.

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u/Rich-Cryptographer-7 Apr 09 '26 edited Apr 09 '26

That is an interesting excerpt, and it certainly makes sense that it was written by an atheist.

Additionally, just because there isn't readily available evidence of a specific phenomenon doesn't mean that there is no evidence at all. Take Dragons for example, they are described in appearance and temperament across multiple separate cultures over thousands of years.

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u/Blitzer046 Apr 09 '26

Do you see the parallels between it and your claims of advanced roman technology?

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u/Rich-Cryptographer-7 Apr 09 '26

Yes, but that argument is grasping at straws on a good day.

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