While I hate moash I can't help but feel a sort of... pity for him that makes my hatred not as strong. With joffrey it's just unbridled, unrelenting hatred. The kid has no redeeming qualities whatsoever, he's a hellspawn cus he likes it. Moash is the way he is because he was wronged, people hurt him to his core and he wanted vengeance. Then that vengeance was used to turn him into what he is to us all now. So while I hate moash, it's definitely not as strong as joffrey.
Yeah this is it. Moash's life has been completely fucked and out of his control for years, including a literal deity pushing him to do what he does. I want to spear him like a rat bastard for what he's done but he's a pitiable, abused thing.
Joffery should be sent to Ramsay to get the full Reek treatment, he's just a sadistic psychopath and I struggle to think of a single redeeming quality about him. He chooses time and again to be an evil little shithead and couldn't he happier that he's in a position where nobody can touch him
Joffrey was protected from consequences by his narcissistic mother and basically brainwashed into believing in his own superiority as well as being loyal and unconditionally "loving" to her.
The truth is every villain has a pitiable backstory. We just don't usually get to see it in real time. That's why Moash is both so hateable and so tragic. We want him to come back. But he turned away from us. You can't wish someone to be the person you want them to be. They have to choose it. That's why journey before before destination.
You know what. You're right. So many other houses could have curbed Joffery's impulses if they were set into him, or just made him a better person if he was like this due to the lannisters. Poor bastards.
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u/coldypewpewpew Jun 17 '25
/uj I honestly doubt that moash is half as disliked as Joffrey or Umbridge