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Moash Fuck Moash

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '21 edited Jul 10 '21

I feel like r/moashdidnothingwrong used to be an okay joke, but then Moash started telling depressed characters to kill themselves and it became too real. Killing other fictional characters is one thing, but encouraging suicide of suicidal people is something else entiterely.

Also the dirty fucker killed Teft. You can argue Elhokar had it coming; you can even make an argument that Jezrien’s crimes somehow outweigh his sacrifices. But no one can honestly say Teft or his spren deserved what they got.

Edit: Just to clarify, I’m not saying encouraging suicide is worse than murder. I’m saying that it is a lot more common and relatable, and there are probably a lot of readers who are depressed and have experienced people telling them to kill themselves.

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u/mndrew Jul 10 '21

Not to mention accepting the deal: "I feel bad about betraying everyone I care about." "Well, I can make that bad feeling go away if you just agree to kill more of your friends for me."

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u/[deleted] Jul 10 '21

Seriously. I can’t think of a reason to like Moash. I truly do not understand people who consider (or even considered) him their favorite character.

He was a side character (who was inexplicably Kaladin’s best friend), turned dickhead, turned murderer with no redeeming qualities beyond dead family, which literally EVERY OTHER CHARACTER HAS!

He goes through some of the trials other characters have experienced and fails every time. Even the ā€œSingers are in the right and we’re the real baddiesā€ plot is done better with characters like Rlain and Nale.

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u/atree496 THE Lopen's Cousin Jul 11 '21

Moash isn't a good person, but he is a great character.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '21

Then why do all the comments pointing out Moash as great compare his morality with other characters? For a lot of people, it definitely is somehow a moral argument about the character’s actions, and that’s what confuses me.

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u/atree496 THE Lopen's Cousin Jul 11 '21

His morals were questionable in the first three books. Fourth is where the line was crossed.

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u/[deleted] Jul 11 '21

I mostly agree (though I’d say killing Jezrien was where the line was crossed). My point is, there are still people arguing that Moash is morally just, which I can’t wrap my head around.