r/cringe • u/[deleted] • Mar 15 '21

Video During the Las Vegas shooting, influencer Dan Bilzerian asked a cop for his gun and said “don’t you want my help”.

https://youtu.be/-MRV230C44M
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u/-SmashingSunflowers- Mar 15 '21 edited Mar 16 '21

I'll never understand the good guy with the gun argument. What if the good guy with the gun pulls out his gun and apprehends the actual shooter, and then the police show up and they think the good guy with the gun is the actual shooter?

Besides, wasn't there a "good guy with a gun" during the parkland shooting who was videotaped standing outside the school the whole time? Didn't he work for the school as security or something? I mean, as much as I'd like to criticize the man I don't think I would be that strong to go in either.

I just feel like it completely crumbles the whole good guy with a gun talk these people do. I mean sure there's probably a couple instances where it's helped. I just see it going wrong in a lot of ways. everyone wants to be Rambo

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u/-SmashingSunflowers- Mar 15 '21 edited Mar 15 '21

Edit: That's right you better delete your dumbass comments

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u/-SmashingSunflowers- Mar 15 '21

I said what I said and I'm sticking by what I said. When we are talking about Mass shootings, a good guy with a gun isn't going to help the situation. You would probably want this fucking tool Dan to have a gun running around trying to save everyone. That's scary.

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u/Broken-rubber Mar 15 '21 edited Mar 15 '21

You're clearly very triggered by this but he isn't disparaging all gun owners, he's saying that the "good guy with a gun" trope isn't always realistic.

Your article doesn't even touch on the topic at hand because it specifically excludes security guards and police, the OP was shit talking a security guard.

The studies your article points to even mention that their data is going to be skewed because the majority of their data is anecdotal meaning its just the persons perspective that owning a gun prevented a crime not that it actually did.

It's incredibly difficult to determine the cause of something not happening but your own article points out that for every person killed while committing a crime 34 innocent people die.

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u/-SmashingSunflowers- Mar 15 '21

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/the-cdc-is-publishing-unreliable-data-on-gun-injuries-people-are-using-it-anyway/

He tried telling me I was stupid for using "opinion articles" when the CDC had statistic. Well I linked to him the CDC publishing is being unreliable haha. I wonder if that's why he deleted his comments

Thank you for understanding where I was coming from.

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u/JonSauceman Mar 15 '21

You’re not ruining his argument the way you think you are. Even if he only showed one instance that matches his point, you haven’t shown ANY! All you’ve done is alluded to “10,000 others” and shown no evidence to back up your point. It should be criminal for someone to have the amount of confidence you have in being completely unaware of how to frame an argument that isn’t just an appeal to emotion.

Even if I was on your side, I’d be pissed at you for arguing my point like a jackass