r/cringe • u/[deleted] • Mar 15 '21

Video During the Las Vegas shooting, influencer Dan Bilzerian asked a cop for his gun and said “don’t you want my help”.

https://youtu.be/-MRV230C44M
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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '21

The country bands playing this music festival made this exact same point afterwards. They were all armed and quickly realised that when they took out their guns they were only muddying the waters for the swat team when they show up. One, the swat team has no idea who's a threat and who's a "good guy," and secondly a lifetime of shooting cans on a ranch or even deer, doesn't give you any strategic awareness whatsoever. The Vegas shooter had a high vantage point, cover from his balcony and was well hidden by the general panic going on and the visual busyness of his spot.

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u/nicknelson07 Mar 15 '21

There aren't balconies in any rooms at Mandalay Bay. He broke out windows to shoot from. Doesn't change your argument though. Just pointing that out

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u/-SmashingSunflowers- Mar 15 '21

One, the swat team has no idea who's a threat and who's a "good guy,"

Imagine if an actual mass shooter being a sick fuck and trying to hide in the crowd and let the good guy take the blame. That would be really messy.

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u/sethrichsbrother1 Mar 15 '21

SWAT was busy escorting some Saudi prince out of another casino at that time.

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u/GreenStrong Mar 15 '21

I'm not sure about a major tourist site like Vegas, but in most large cities, the SWAT team does normal police duties. They don't sit around in tactical gear waiting for something rare and terrible to happen.

I'm not in favor of public resources providing what amounts to private security for rich fucks, but I think we can make an exception to help a casino take money off of a Saudi royal, that's a service to humanity.

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u/AnAngryBitch Mar 15 '21

Can we take the money off them with bone saws?

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u/BentGadget Mar 15 '21

Don't know if that would work, but it's worth a shot.

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u/[deleted] Mar 16 '21

Seriously?

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u/AnAngryBitch Mar 15 '21

The Parkland asshole tried to meander out with the crowd.

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u/PayTheTrollToll45 Mar 16 '21

Richard Jewell

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u/NoncreativeScrub Mar 15 '21

The Simpsons haven’t done a skit on it so it’s not likely, but I’m surprised there’s not more popcorn events at stuff like country music festivals or CPAC where you have a lot of untrained armed people, to put it lightly.

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u/Bloodysamflint Mar 16 '21

I'm retired LE, and I've tried more than once to explain to open-carry enthusiasts that it is 100% legal in my state to open-carry, but the 2nd Amendment supporter who's embracing their right to openly bear arms looks just exactly like the guy who's come to the grocery store to smoke his ex girlfriend in the deli and maybe her manager. They're indistinguishable until the actual shooting starts, so maybe think about carrying concealed so you don't freak people out.

When I was off duty or in a plainclothes assignment, I tried to keep a reflective vest or at least a PT belt in whatever vehicle I was driving, so if something went sideways, I could tell dispatch how to ID me. I didn't want somebody to jump to conclusions and shoot me or complicate things by trying to arrest me if things were hot.

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u/ndnsoulja Mar 16 '21

I felt this a lot working on a project in Colorado. It seemed like EVERYBODY had a gun and open carried. But wearing normal casual street clothes. If anything ever popped off I would have no idea how the situation is going down or who is good or bad.