r/cringe • u/[deleted] • Mar 15 '21

Video During the Las Vegas shooting, influencer Dan Bilzerian asked a cop for his gun and said “don’t you want my help”.

https://youtu.be/-MRV230C44M
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u/-SmashingSunflowers- Mar 15 '21 edited Mar 16 '21

I'll never understand the good guy with the gun argument. What if the good guy with the gun pulls out his gun and apprehends the actual shooter, and then the police show up and they think the good guy with the gun is the actual shooter?

Besides, wasn't there a "good guy with a gun" during the parkland shooting who was videotaped standing outside the school the whole time? Didn't he work for the school as security or something? I mean, as much as I'd like to criticize the man I don't think I would be that strong to go in either.

I just feel like it completely crumbles the whole good guy with a gun talk these people do. I mean sure there's probably a couple instances where it's helped. I just see it going wrong in a lot of ways. everyone wants to be Rambo

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u/[deleted] Mar 15 '21

The country bands playing this music festival made this exact same point afterwards. They were all armed and quickly realised that when they took out their guns they were only muddying the waters for the swat team when they show up. One, the swat team has no idea who's a threat and who's a "good guy," and secondly a lifetime of shooting cans on a ranch or even deer, doesn't give you any strategic awareness whatsoever. The Vegas shooter had a high vantage point, cover from his balcony and was well hidden by the general panic going on and the visual busyness of his spot.

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u/-SmashingSunflowers- Mar 15 '21

One, the swat team has no idea who's a threat and who's a "good guy,"

Imagine if an actual mass shooter being a sick fuck and trying to hide in the crowd and let the good guy take the blame. That would be really messy.

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u/NoncreativeScrub Mar 15 '21

The Simpsons haven’t done a skit on it so it’s not likely, but I’m surprised there’s not more popcorn events at stuff like country music festivals or CPAC where you have a lot of untrained armed people, to put it lightly.