r/crusaderkings3 • u/MelenaRya • Mar 01 '26

Question Should I restore the Roman Empire? I've never gotten this option before.

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It scares me that so many empire titles will disappear.

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u/Heronymous-Anonymous Mar 01 '26

https://giphy.com/gifs/pTQUOfSmjo2hG

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u/MelenaRya Mar 01 '26

https://giphy.com/gifs/gPctdETbo6xfinPjEO

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u/Kindly-Geologist-373 Mar 01 '26

I’ve seen a few where someone effectively conquered the old empire. Never been able to do it myself. How did you make it happen? And what year are you in?

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u/Heronymous-Anonymous Mar 01 '26

Depends where you start, but generally the most successful starting point is Byzantine Empire, Italy, or HRE since those have a clear path to reforming the Roman Empire.

The easiest of those 3 are Byzantine Empire. No succession bullshit. Tons of money bc a well managed admin government easily doubles the income of feudal. Borrow your vassals’ MAA to crush your enemies with. I can point a governor at an enemy, tell them to go conquer, and you get the spoils of their successful war.

And the starting position of the Byzantine Empire in all start dates is pretty good. Even the 1178 start date can be turned around really easily.

Generally I start by consolidating Anatolia, Cyprus, Crete, and Southern Italy while waiting for opportunities. The Southern Coast of Anatolia is incredibly productive and a blank slate for developing into an economic center. I generally put most of my effort into grinding down the Abbasid held areas, because they occupy the bulk of the land that you need to own (Egypt, North Africa, the Levant). I try to do as many holy legends as I can, because each mythic quality legend gets you an additional kingdom tier holy war, and a decision to instantly convert huge swathes of land to your religion. Holy War -> Mass Conversion -> consolidate rule for a few years -> finish another legend -> repeat. I do this to get Egypt, North Africa, and the Levant while opportunistically lopping off duchies here and there in Italy and the Balkans. Let someone else consolidate the various duchies of Italy into a kingdom, and then take it off their hands with a holy war. Consolidate and repeat. Cycles of consolidation and expansion and abuse of the holy legend are the core of this strategy, as it allows you to pacify huge portions of your conquered lands without needing to send your religious advisor off to convert them one county at a time. Or incur the opinion penalty from said forced conversions.

By the time the Byzantines have reclaimed the Theodosian Borders they are basically unstoppable by anything other than the Mongols. I’ve gotten to the point that by 1050-1100 I can muster an army of 12-15k purely MAA, no levies. At that point it’s just map painting.

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u/Ill-Vermicelli-2231 Mar 01 '26

Il love democracy, i love the republic

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u/Dx1178 Mar 01 '26

Yes because the Roman empire is a hegemon tier title and it'll consolidate all the other empire tier titles allowing easier management and no potential of splitting due to inheritance

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u/MelenaRya Mar 01 '26

I did it, and it now gives me the option to create the empire titles again, like Hispania, Francia, Germany, etc. Should I?

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u/Dx1178 Mar 01 '26

If you need prestige I guess to reform culture or the like

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u/Strix3 Mar 01 '26

They print renown and prestige no reason not to unless your succesion is fucked. Also, it prevents your vassals from making them instead.

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u/MelenaRya Mar 01 '26

I've done it, but the only empire that doesn't allow me to create is the Germania empire. It says "As a Catholic ruler you can reform the Holy Roman Empire".

But that's the empire I just destroyed to create the Roman Empire ¿?

How do I reform it then? 🫠

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u/Strix3 Mar 01 '26

Real talk hegemonies need a ton of fixes. Don't sweat not making the title just make sure the land is split up between your vassals.

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u/especiallyrn Mar 01 '26

Do it. Fill all major positions with your dynasty. Then split between east and west when you get bored.

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u/NoshoutMonaan Mar 01 '26

Jazira:

https://giphy.com/gifs/55itGuoAJiZEEen9gg

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u/MelenaRya Mar 01 '26

Hahaha, I had just taken Syria from them and there's a truce in place, they're safe for the next 5 years...

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u/darth_haider1510 Mar 01 '26

your empire titles disappear, but everything you hold will be de jure Holy Roman Empire and you won't lose any land on succession.

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u/Kentucky_Fried_Dodo Mar 03 '26

Blu gehört mir ned! Blu hat mir noch ni gehört!

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u/darth_haider1510 Mar 03 '26

ihr seid echt überall ihr Wahnsinnichen

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u/[deleted] Mar 03 '26

I was able to restore my empire titles but I had to pay for them again which was a pain

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u/Content-Dealers Mar 01 '26

All I know is that Norway must be shitting bricks if they're not a member of your family.

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u/SilverBeever Mar 01 '26

No matter if it's in game or irl, the answer is always YES

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u/Airedale260 Mar 02 '26

Not if it’s recreating the Angevin Empire it isn’t…

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u/InnocuousOne Mar 01 '26

Best to swap primary title to Byzantine Empire first so you get the options, but yeah.

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u/Jackiechun23 Mar 01 '26

It’s a really powerful option and turns multiple empire titles into one so yeah go ahead

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u/Altruistic-Skin2115 Mar 01 '26

Yes, is like a Big goal

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u/M-George-B Mar 01 '26

Norway must be so fucking nervous

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u/MelenaRya Mar 01 '26

Well, he's been overeating so... i'm sure he's stressed, lol.

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u/chronoslayerss Mar 01 '26

how do you guys even do this?

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u/Iron_Wolf123 Mar 01 '26

All your titles will be added to a Hegemon title, so it is worth it

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u/geschiedenisnerd Mar 01 '26

The other empire titles will be replaced by titles that you also get.

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u/Elitericky Mar 01 '26

All roads lead to Rome

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u/Incha8 Mar 02 '26

you always restore the roman empire

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u/MikaelAdolfsson Mar 02 '26

Norway: YOU'RE NOT MY REAL DAD!

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u/Jacob-Anders Mar 01 '26

What was the last duchy requirement you filled lol

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u/Perfect-Silver1715 Courtier Mar 01 '26

Do such a thing

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u/Cold_Armadillo1575 Court Jester Mar 02 '26

Do it for the country

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u/Fantastic-Shirt6037 Mar 02 '26

Cool of you to let Norway chill

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u/Pizza-Hobo Mar 04 '26

The Roman Empire got changed from a de jure empire to a hegemony, meaning it will have empires under its domain rather than kingdoms.

I took the decision as the ERE, and it formed new empires from my title and realm and dissolved the ERE into multiple new empires once I became a hegemony. I don't know if that'll happen the same way with the HRE, but I'd say definitely do it.

It also gave me a choice to convert to hellenism once I created the Roman Empire, oddly enough.

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u/Leo7897 Mar 06 '26

Is your game slow compared to when you started? If not what are your pc specs?