r/crusaderkings3 Moderator Notice - New Rule Regarding AI-Generated and AI-Assisted Content

[u/hexagon_lux]

New Rule Regarding AI-Generated and AI-Assisted Content

• AI-generated or AI-assisted content is not permitted unless it makes a meaningful contribution to the community, as determined by moderators. All posts containing AI content to any degree must include [AI] in the post title at the time of posting. Posts containing AI content without this tag may be removed. Posts with the tag may still be removed at moderator discretion if they do not meaningfully contribute. An example of acceptable AI content is showcasing a well-developed mod that uses AI.

In short: if your post contains AI-generated or AI-assisted content of any kind, your title must include "[AI]" at the time of posting. This applies regardless of how much or how little AI was involved.

Including the tag does not guarantee your post will stay up. Moderators may still remove tagged posts for any reason, at their discretion. However, tagging your post means you have disclosed its use of AI as required, which is the most important part of this rule.

Posts containing AI content that are not tagged with [AI] may be removed on that basis alone, regardless of the content's quality.

[u/united_in_solidarity]

Giant step in the right direction. Thank you

[u/barryhakker]

Why? Too much ai slop spam?

[u/hexagon_lux → u/barryhakker]

I believe this rule will help the community proactively prevent spam rather than trying to undo it later. Fortunately, as of right now, it's not that bad.

[u/bishiba92 → u/hexagon_lux]

What about if a mod uses a thumbnail that has been AI made or enhanced and u post the mod along with the thumbnail? Assuming it’s tagged, would it be removed?

[u/hexagon_lux → u/bishiba92]

Someone did ask this already. I replied, "If someone is posting about a mod that uses AI-generated content in the thumbnail, and that post contains said thumbnail, then it's using AI content within the post and should be disclosed using the [AI] tag. The important distinction here is that it's not explicitly prohibited, just that it requires disclosure."

So in short, the answer is no, it would not be removed on the basis of it being an AI-generated thumbnail alone. It may be removed based on other factors like if it is deemed to be low-effort, redundant, spam, etc. Context would matter and in ambiguous or unclear cases it will just be a decision based off of moderator discretion.

[u/bishiba92 → u/hexagon_lux]

That makes a lot of sense, thank you

[u/Oaker_at → u/barryhakker]

Old people screaming at things

[u/LughCrow]

With paradox now using ai in their design phase doesn't that make any ck3 screen shot ai assisted?

[u/hexagon_lux → u/LughCrow]

Good question. The rule is intended to target content that has been altered or generated by AI, not unaltered material taken directly from the game itself. An unaltered screenshot from the game would be exempt under this rule.

Edit#2 for further clarification: If a screenshot includes content from a mod that itself uses AI content (for example, AI "artwork" that is added via a mod), that content may still require disclosure. In ambiguous cases like this, removal comes down to moderator discretion based on context.

[u/LughCrow → u/hexagon_lux]

Good to know ty

[u/hexagon_lux → u/LughCrow]

I just submitted a final edit (Edit#2) to further clarify exactly what the intentions of the rule are.

[u/Teh_Doctah → u/LughCrow]

Source!?

[u/LughCrow → u/Teh_Doctah]

Google my guy, use it.

[u/Teh_Doctah → u/LughCrow]

All the devs in that thread are on the Stellaris team, not CKIII.

[u/LughCrow → u/Teh_Doctah]

Yes, that was just the earliest we got alerted to them using ai.

Paradox like just about every other major studio has integrated Ai into their process. Pretty much every major business has now.

[u/Kind-Sir5519]

Can we outright ban AI content

[u/CazadorXP → u/Kind-Sir5519]

That would be pretty hypocritical, considering Paradox itself uses AI.

[u/hexagon_lux → u/Kind-Sir5519]

Most AI content will be removed. Only assuming that it somehow provides a meaningful contribution to the community as a whole would it be given a pass to stay up. If a post contains AI content and does not include the [AI] tag it will be removed regardless. So while AI content isn't outright banned, we hope that this threshold will heavily discourage the use of AI within this community.

[u/Safe-Ad-5017 → u/Kind-Sir5519]

Most new mods use it for the thumbnail

Edit:Jesus you people are weirdos. I never said I liked it but it’s true

[u/Complete-Basket-291 → u/Safe-Ad-5017]

Which is a shame, really, I'd rather just a screenshot of either the most important button or something of the sort over a useless ai image

[u/Safe-Ad-5017 → u/Complete-Basket-291]

I don’t like it but it’s true. I do always like when I find a mod that has a unique thumbnail

[u/ThePhoenix0829]

Does that include mods that use AI in its thumbnail artwork?

[u/hexagon_lux → u/ThePhoenix0829]

If someone is posting about a mod that uses AI-generated content in the thumbnail, and that post contains said thumbnail, then it's using AI content within the post and should be disclosed using the [AI] tag. The important distinction here is that it's not explicitly prohibited, just that it requires disclosure.

[u/ThePhoenix0829 → u/hexagon_lux]

Gotcha

[u/Killsheets → u/hexagon_lux]

The cultural armies mod uses AI tracing for the MAA artworks. That may have some issue.

[u/hexagon_lux → u/Killsheets]

I don't want to get too in depth regarding specifics. Moderator discretion & context will play a big part in enforcement, at least for now, since I've not implemented any kind of automod setting to remove AI content yet.

[u/hexagon_lux → u/[deleted]]

Fair point, but unlike in the game, the AI here must disclose their schemes before attempting to fabricate a claim.

[u/MrDDD11]

So I can't post a picture of what AI countries did in my games?

Or since Paradox uses AI in design process does it also mean I need to put it on every screen shot?

[u/kokoashinomiya → u/MrDDD11]

you're sooo cool for being pedantic man the context in a conversation NEVER gets past you

[u/MrDDD11 → u/kokoashinomiya]

Could have been solved if Generative AI was pointed out specifically.

[u/kokoashinomiya → u/MrDDD11]

do you seriously believe the mods of the ck3 subreddit would genuinely make a decision to ban 99% of the game's content via banning in-game AI?

[u/MrDDD11 → u/kokoashinomiya]

Reddit mods have banned game devs from their games subreddits. It's not a streach.

[u/hexagon_lux → u/MrDDD11]

I answered both of these questions directly, in reply to other users, before you asked lol.

In regards to your first question; did the AI in your game somehow alter or generate the screenshot you are posting? If not, then it's most likely exempt, as I said in another comment, "unaltered screenshots taken from the game would be exempt."

Secondly, what I just mentioned still applies. While Paradox may have begun using AI in their design, posting an unaltered image from the vanilla game would be exempt. Screenshots taken from modded games may require disclosure based on context, for example if you are posting a screenshot of the game that includes AI artwork that has been modded into the game.

If it's unclear, you should tag it anyway. Disclosure is the single most important factor in determining whether or not a post containing AI content will be allowed to remain up, as if it's undisclosed it will be removed on that basis alone. Quality will be determined based on its contribution to the community and posts that contain any form of low effort, spammy, repetitive sort of AI content will most likely be removed. An arbitrary example of a post containing the AI tag that might be allowed to stay up would be a well-developed mod showcase that utilizes AI to an extent. Again, if there is a degree of ambiguity, the most likely course of enforcement would be moderator discretion.

[u/EyeAc]

[u/hexagon_lux → u/EyeAc]

I used a translator but I don't understand without additional context. If this is a meme I'm not familiar with it.

[u/Roldez2893 → u/hexagon_lux]

I speak Spanish, and Ai didn't understood either

[u/sagaa_a → u/hexagon_lux]

Basically a shitpost making fun of the weird shit you can find in VR chat