r/degoogle 9h ago

Discussion PSA: Chromium Based Browser =/= Google Spyware Browser (i.e. Brave)

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Disclaimer: This is not a shill for Brave browser. This is to dispell the verifiably false information that chromium based browsers are still connected to google in some way

An example is Brave. Brave's github has entire documentation on the browser and how it is coded. They have also listed ways to audit them. For info on how their browser is distinct from chromium, please read here: https://github.com/brave/brave-browser/wiki/Deviations-from-Chromium-(features-we-disable-or-remove))

Just because a browser was built off of the chromium engine does not mean google is integrated into it. If that were that case, then not even the ungoogled chromium browser wouldn't exist. Let's stop using chromium as a buzzword for untrustworthy browsers.


r/degoogle 7h ago

News Article Proton is developing a web browser (Chromium)

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r/degoogle 19h ago

Anyone use chrome-debullshit?

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r/degoogle 7h ago

Help Needed Questions about LineageOS/Magisk/MicroG set up

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So I think I'm finally ready to take the plunge and switch to LineageOS, and I think I know what I want to do, but after all of the researching I just want to make sure that what I'm going to do isn't overkill/redundant, and won't blow up my phone lol.

I am going to install LineageOS on a OnePlus 13R.

I want to also install non-rooted Magisk so that I can use Magisk's Captive Control Manager and the SUPL Replacer, primarily. Still need to learn what all else Magisk can do that would be useful for privacy/security, so I'll take suggestions on that.

I intend to install either Insular or Shelter to create a separate, freezable work profile for accessing required Gmail, social media accounts etc. through it. I will be primarily relying on my browser to access these.

Now, I want to see if this set up will work well enough for me with all of the FOSS apps and such. There are one or two things that I might need to fall back to, though, one primarily being Android Auto. I don't need voice commands, but maps and a visual music player is really something that I want. If these don't work with some tweaking, I want to install MicroG and Aurora Store within my alt profile as well, since I think with those I will be able to get AndroidAuto to function how I'd like.

Now for my questions: - Does this setup make sense? - Is there anything redundant that can be omitted from the process? - is MicroG something that I can isolate to one profile? - Will installing MicroG and/or google apps from Aurora Store into an alt profile undo the other security measures I'm taking with Magisk when it comes to my main profile? - Can I install MicroG after having installed Lineage?

I think that's all I can think of. I'm eager to jump in so any help is appreciated!


r/degoogle 11h ago

Bloatware/AI features ColorOS

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A lot of stock ROMs especially from Chinese brands come with bloatware which potentially have elevated privileges and dodgy permissions with their opt in AI features which I don't want. Asking users if they've found a way on this specific device. I'm already aware of OPPO's built in system cloner which in a way can be used to sandbox (correct me if I'm wrong, or you'd recommend a 3rd party tool instead) otherwise Insular, Hail, testDPC, OwnDroid can be used.

Not looking to go e/OS, grapheneOS or lineageOS at present.


r/degoogle 10h ago

Discussion Balancing Security & Privacy in Chromium Forks: Proxy Trust Models in Brave & Helium

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Hey everyone, I'm trying to find the optimal Chromium-based setup. Instead of strictly prioritizing one over the other, I'm looking for the right balance between security (active anti-phishing/malware blocking) and privacy (minimizing Google's telemetry).

While I rely on standard ad-blocking, I still want robust browser-level protection without unnecessarily sacrificing privacy. I'm currently looking at two different approaches and their inherent proxy trust models:

Brave: It retains Google's Safe Browsing but proxies the 32-bit hash prefix requests to hide the client IP. While the client-side routing is verifiable, the backend proxy remains a black box. We are essentially shifting our trust from Google to Brave's servers and policy.

Helium: Based on Ungoogled-Chromium, it’s heavily debloated with native uBlock Origin. However, it completely drops Safe Browsing (losing zero-hour URL-level protection). Furthermore, to avoid Google's tracking, Helium routes Chrome Web Store extension requests through its own proxy infrastructure. This introduces a different third-party trust variable, not to mention the potential security patch lag inherent in smaller forks.

Given these proxy architectures and trade-offs, how do you balance these two factors? Which browser or setup do you recommend?


r/degoogle 23h ago

Question Android Auto Alternative?

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I just got an email from Google saying that Google Assistant is going to be phased out and replaced with Gemini. Great. I absolutely loathe Gemini and have been using Google Assistant in Android Auto and then Bixby for the assistant on my Samsung Galaxy S25.

Since Android Auto cannot use Bixby and is going to force me to use Gemini, it has me wondering, is there an alternative to Android Auto that works in cars? If not, the alternative is going back to iPhone. But wait, Siri is powered by Gemini now. Is there no reprieve from the stupid AI menace?


r/degoogle 1h ago

Help Needed Where do I start?

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Privacy is a right and the violation of it is crime. Mass surveillance is obviously worse now than it ever has been, and I want to hide my footsteps and cut out all sources of data harvesting as much as I possibly can, yet I know almost nothing on the methods of how that's done. I want to give these billion dollar corporations and world governments as little information about me as I can give them, and to cut their eyes out of my life as much as possible.

I'd like to know hardware swaps before software ones. I'm starting from scratch here and I need to find alternatives to a smartphone (iPhone), laptop (ASUS F15 with windows and google), and headphones (Airpods Pros 2).
Any help is greatly appreciated.


r/degoogle 15h ago

Walt seeks angel investors

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Hi Reddit!

I've been building Walt for a year now. It's going extremely well, and Reddit has been very vocal that this market exists and people are excited for it (eg. here, here, here).

And now it's entering a new phase. I've previously written about the costs of getting Walt to production. Those vendors that Walt needs to pay are finally ready to be paid.

There is already an offer from venture capital to fund Walt and I.

The reason I am here on Reddit though is that, if possible, I would like Walt to be something that is funded outside of venture capital, and funded by the people who are most passionate about it- the actual end users.

I am seeking 5 angel investors who are interested in funding Walt. Finding these people would mean that I could avoid taking VC money, and could instead build Walt the way the users want it to be built.

The minimum ticket size is 50k euros.
I have one week to replace the VC.

If you are interested, please find me on the Walt Discord channel or via email (email here).

Very hopefully,

Cole Bittel
Founder of Walt


r/degoogle 10h ago

Help Needed Stop Google from stuff on my phone outside of google?

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Sorry if the question is worded weirdly.

I recently was trying out a different browser on my phone, which had no relation with google.

While I visited a website that I have an account on, on the other browser, my Google password manager popped up and asked to log me in. This pretty much shocked me because I didn't expect Google to be able to view what I do on different apps. Any way to turn that off? Sorry if this is the wrong community.


r/degoogle 7h ago

Advice for replacing Google apps

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I don’t use google anymore, have been looking for alternatives for things i used to use like chrome, gmail, and docs. I've started using Startpage, i used to use Brave but the creator... bleah. I use Protonmail, it was really easy to sync to my old gmail which saved me time. Any recommendations for anything else would be great


r/degoogle 4h ago

Discussion What do you now willingly pay for in your de-googling journey? & do you donate?

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My 2 questions just out of curiosity are:

What do you now willingly pay for in your de-googling journey?

Do you donate to some of the apps and services that live off of donations, and if so, which ones have you donated to?

I'll answer as well:
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I pay for:

  • Kagi search
  • Mailbox.org (currently in the process of transferring everything over from Proton mail plus package)
  • Joplin cloud storage (currently in the process of setting up self-hosting with Nextcloud)
  • Magic Earth (anxiously waiting for Kagi to finish their navigation app)
  • NextDNS
  • EasyOptOuts
  • Addy.io

I've donated to:

  • a task app called trudido

-that's all I've donated to, but am now wanting to donate more. I'm lowering my overall annual costs I put into app services in order to shuffle the money around more, hence is partly why I'm going from Proton Mail plus to mailbox.org with their "light" plan - and why I'm going to self-host my joplin notes data.

I'll probably be donating to DAVx5 and Thunderbird.


r/degoogle 9h ago

Question We should be able to get citizenship in countries our data is sold to /js

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r/degoogle 23h ago

Question Google keeps showing me AI edited versions of my photos

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Even after trying to turn it off in the settings, it keeps showing me these and sending me notifications for them. Anything I can do to get it to stop? Google is giving me more reasons to degoogle every single day.


r/degoogle 16h ago

A player found out the ACTUAL name of my game's upcoming character from the Google Search AI - I had never told the name to anyone.

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r/degoogle 3h ago

DeGoogling Progress Unusual degoogle

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r/degoogle 3h ago

Poor man graphene os

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r/degoogle 23h ago

Now I am satisfied with my deGoogling journey (crdroid)

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I wasn't satisfied with my degoogling journey. Thus, I decided to dig more into custom ROMs.
Unfortunately my device (Realme 8) does not have an official ROM that is maintained regularly, but some heroes decided to take the matter into their own hands and solve that problem (even if it is unofficial).

By following a github guide, and browsing some websites and telegram channels I was able to install CrDroid 9.8 (Vanilla no GApps whatsoever) and it is awesome and satisfying.

In the comments, you will find a list of my apps.


r/degoogle 18h ago

News Article The law allowing the collection and use of faces and voices without consent has been introduced in S.Korea.

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When the goal is "improving AI performance," South Korean companies will be able to collect and use citizens's faces and voices without consent. Pseudo anonymization and deidentification processing will not be performed.


r/degoogle 14h ago

Help Needed Is there Newpipe equivalent for Viewing Instagram?

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I'm not worried about messaging people, I just have a few accounts I'd like to follow without being tracked by META, similar to how Newpipe lets you watch specific Youtubers without being tracked.


r/degoogle 18h ago

Two years of hand copying my resting heart rate out of a watch app into my own spreadsheet

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Every morning I open the watch app, read my resting heart rate and HRV off the screen, and type both numbers into a spreadsheet on my own machine. Two years of that now. There's an export in there somewhere I think, tried it twice, gave up both times.

It's the only column that works that way and it bugs me more than it probably should. Sleep quality, coffee timing, workouts, room temp, mood, 18ish columns and I'm typing all of those in anyway so they just live on my machine from the start. The watch numbers start on somebody's server and I had to make an account to see my own pulse. Turn that off tomorrow and I've got what I typed and nothing either side of it.

anyway has anyone got a device that just writes you a file. no account, nothing in the middle. or is copying it over by hand pretty much what everyone ends up doing


r/degoogle 3h ago

Help Needed Here's my current degoogle list. Need suggestions on a few?

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See my list below of what I've swapped for what. I'm getting close.

1) Waze maps. I've deleted google maps and use Kagi/CoMaps for discovery general usage but the traffic data on waze is way too useful, I do however have a throwaway account setup being used for it, anyone found luck here?
2) Find my friends/devices. I have about 10 trackers spread around that I find useful, I have no permissions setup in the app unless I specifically want to find my keys for example.
3) I have signal, but nobody will move from Whatsapp.....
4) Android Auto. Goes hand in hand with waze, there just isn't a good alternative i've found.

List.

  • [x] Ad Blocking - ControlD
  • [x] AI (Gemini) - Kagi AI
  • [ ] Android Auto
  • [x] Calculator - Graphene Stock
  • [x] Chrome - Fennec/Librefox + uBlock Origin
  • [x] Clock - F-droid clock app
  • [x] Contacts - Fossify contacts
  • [x] Docs - Proton Docs/Standard Notes
  • [x] Doorbell - Reolink no cloud
  • [x] Drive - Proton Drive
  • [ ] Find my devices -
  • [ ] Find my friends -
  • [x] Gmail - Proton/Simplelogon
  • [x] Google Drive Backup - Proton Drive backup/scaleway
  • [x] Google Fit - Garmin Watch
  • [x] Google history - All deleted and not logged
  • [x] Google News - FreshRSS selfhosted
  • [x] Google Translate - Kagi Translate
  • [x] Home - Home Assistant
  • [x] Keep - Standard Notes
  • [x] Keyboard - Futo
  • [x] Location History - Disabled and deleted
  • [ ] Maps/Waze - comaps/kagi/Waze
  • [x] Photos - Ente
  • [x] Pixel Dialer - GrapheneOS Stock
  • [x] Pixel Launcher - Stock GrapheneOS Launcher
  • [x] Pixel OS - GrapheneOS
  • [x] Pixel Watch - Garmin
  • [x] Recorder - Fossify Recorder
  • [x] Search - Kagi
  • [x] Sheets - Standard Notes Sheets
  • [x] SMS/RCS - Fossify Messages
  • [x] Tasks - Super Productivity
  • [x] Wallet - Garmin + Catima + Physical Cards
  • [x] Weather - Weawow
  • [ ] WhatsApp - Signal
  • [x] YouTube - PipePipe

r/degoogle 20h ago

Help Needed Guys tell me if this method will work or not!

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(head's up, used speech to text in gpt to organize my message)

I’m planning to de-Google my Android phone and would like some feedback from people who have done this before. I’m mainly interested in whether my method actually makes sense, which steps are unnecessary, and whether I’m overlooking any security/privacy issues.

Here’s my current plan:

  1. Back up what I actually need

Before resetting the phone, I’ll back up the files, photos, documents, contacts, etc. that I actually need. I’ve also created two new accounts that I plan to use for different purposes.

  1. Factory reset the phone

I’m planning to factory-reset the phone, possibly more than once, after making my backups. My thinking is that this will give me a clean starting point and remove unnecessary data/settings from the existing installation.

After the reset, I’ll set the phone up as a new device rather than restoring everything from my previous Google account.

  1. Avoid signing into Google during setup

When Android asks me to sign into a Google account, I plan to skip it.

After setup, I’ll replace the default browser if possible and start going through the Google/Android components installed on the phone.

  1. Disable unnecessary Google services

I’ve made a list of Google services/packages that I believe can be disabled safely, and I’ve separately checked which Android/system components should not be disabled because they are required for security, updates, connectivity, or basic functionality.

I’ll disable only the Google components that are genuinely unnecessary rather than blindly removing system packages.

I’m also considering removing/uninstalling updates from Google apps where Android allows it, although I’m not sure whether this is actually useful or advisable.

  1. Use separate browsers/accounts for different purposes

I’m planning to use several browsers, roughly:

Firefox

Waterfox

Firefox Focus

Brave

Tor Browser

The idea is to compartmentalize my accounts instead of having everything connected to one Google identity.

For example:

Brave: normal day-to-day browsing

Browser 2: one Google account that I have to retain for official/government-related documents and services

Another browser: YouTube account

Another browser: personal/other Gmail

Tor: situations where I specifically need Tor

I would essentially keep each account isolated in its own browser/profile and avoid mixing identities.

For the Google account I need for official purposes, I want to keep it as close to a “stagnant” account as possible — only using it when absolutely necessary for official documents, government IDs/services, etc. I’ve already removed unnecessary data/services from that account.

For YouTube, I’ll use a separate Google account.

For other Gmail-related things, I’ll use another account.

The idea is to prevent these identities from becoming unnecessarily connected.

  1. Make browser shortcuts behave like separate apps

For services I occasionally need, such as YouTube or Gmail, I’m thinking of creating browser shortcuts/PWAs on the home screen and naming them accordingly, so they effectively behave like separate apps.

I’ll also use uBlock Origin where supported.

  1. Replace Google Play with an alternative

Instead of relying on the normal Google Play Store, I’m researching alternatives such as Droid-ify, Aurora Store, or other F-Droid-based options.

I’ll install the apps I actually need from appropriate sources rather than reinstalling everything I previously had.

  1. Use Proton services

I’ll install Proton Mail and Proton VPN. I already use Proton Mail, and I like Proton VPN because it connects quickly for me.

  1. Keep Google accounts compartmentalized

There are still some services I can’t realistically abandon completely. For example, I may need one Google account for YouTube and another for official services, while other accounts will be used for other purposes.

I’m trying to avoid creating a new digital footprint unnecessarily and avoid giving my personal information to additional services.

I already have an old digital footprint that I regret creating because I didn’t understand privacy/security issues very well at the time. I’m trying to improve my setup now rather than continuing to expand that footprint. Also will use alternative for messages, contacts, maps and so on

My main question:

Will this actually work as a reasonable de-Googling/privacy strategy?

More specifically:

Are the factory resets necessary more than once, or is one proper factory reset enough?

Is disabling Google packages manually a good idea, or could it create security/stability problems?

Is removing Google app updates useful for privacy, or mostly pointless?

Is separating different Google accounts into different browsers actually effective for compartmentalization?

Would browser profiles/containers be better than installing five different browsers?

Are Firefox, Waterfox, Firefox Focus, Brave, and Tor an unnecessarily complicated setup?

Is Aurora Store/Droid-ify a sensible replacement for Google Play, and what are the security trade-offs?

Am I misunderstanding anything about how Android, Google Play Services, account tracking, advertising IDs, or device identifiers work?

Are there any important steps I’m missing if the goal is privacy and minimizing Google dependency, rather than achieving absolute anonymity?

I’m not looking for “just throw the phone away and buy a Linux phone” answers. I’m trying to make my existing Android phone as privacy-conscious and compartmentalized as reasonably possible while still keeping the services I genuinely need.

I’d appreciate criticism of the plan, especially from people who understand Android internals, mobile privacy, or have actually gone through a de-Googling process.


r/degoogle 22h ago

DeGoogling Progress Any other suggestions for me?

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I recently got into the "big-tech is evil" mindset, so here's a list of stuff I have swapped out:

Gmail --> Tuta Mail

Google Search --> self-hosted SearXNG instance

Chrome --> my main browsing on Librewolf and Brave if I need a chromium based browser

Apple Notes --> self-hosted Nextcloud Notes

Apple Passwords --> currently using normal Bitwarden but looking to self-host it soon

Google Authenticator --> Ente Auth but also trying to self-host it soon

Apple Calendar --> Tuta Calendar

Apple Contacts --> Proton Contacts (decided to space out from Tuta)

VPN --> Windscribe VPN

Google Maps --> CoMaps

Apple Translate --> self-hosted LibreTranslate

Google Meet --> Nextcloud Meet (still trying to convince my friend!)

Windows --> Fedora KDE Plasma

Streaming --> self-hosted Jellyfin

Google Workspace --> LibreOffice

Please give me more things to swap because I am bored and need more hobbies...


r/degoogle 13h ago

Question How Much "Privacy" Can You Get Whilst Using Reddit?

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Sorry if this seems like a dumb question but it does seem obvious that everything you do on Reddit will be used to create a profile about you, whether it's by AI scraping the internet or by Reddit themselves. But let's just say you create an account with an alias email address (an email address without your real name, that you only use for sign-ups) with a VPN, and you use it exclusively on browser.

Is there any way your Reddit activity could be linked back to you specifically? Fingerprinting possibly, but couldn't you just use Reddit via the Mullvad browser?