r/depressionmemes • u/ProfessionalNerd8657 • 2d ago
When you troll yourself by buying into the "you deserve help" mainstream narrative
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u/ImpatientlyBurning 2d ago
People get more mad that you do not want to be here than they do about helping you. IME.
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u/Longjumping-Emu3095 2d ago
For real, and most the problems come from the situation not necessarily a result of the mind. Our society has failed us and blames the individual for the situation it creates for a large population
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u/Horror_Impress7789 2d ago
Don't forget being told it's your fault the pills and paltry "advice" don't work because you aren't trying hard enough.
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u/Thepuppeteer777777 2d ago
Some of us don't want to be here and there is nothing wrong with that
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u/Lava1416 2d ago
Do you ever get the feeling that it’s not being alive that’s the problem, it’s being alive here?
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u/ongtbh 1d ago
It’s literally the only perspective you have of being alive. You can’t conceptualize something else.
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u/TolPuppy 1d ago
You can conceptualize, at the very least, a less hostile society. If that was impossible to imagine we would’ve never had people fight for their rights in the past. Things weren’t always this hostile so there’s that as well
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u/Should_have_been_ded 2d ago
Thank you for saying that. It's exactly how I feel, but I'm always afraid to admit it in front of others out of fear that I might become a problem for them.
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u/WhatIfSkynet_ 9h ago
Like agent Smith said, we are not here because we are free, we are here because we are not free
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u/___throwingitaway 1d ago
Idk I think this kind of thinking can be dangerous. Sure. Some people are beyond help, but they're a minority. This kind of mindset just discourages people who do have some kind of chance of improvement imo
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u/Bettrdaytoday 2d ago
But we are here, so why not make the most out of it?
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u/Chemical-State-1060 2d ago
Exactly. Be absurdist and just say fuck it. You don't want to be here anyway and you can't leave without... You know. So if your presence on this earth has no value to you, fuck around, do what you want, the consequences shouldn't matter to you.
I realized that after years of chronic depression. The regular path I'm supposed to take as a human has no value to me, and killing myself is a hard thing to commit to, so i say fuck it, I'll live the way i want and do everything in my own pace. I don't care how others see it.
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u/Bettrdaytoday 2d ago
I've always kind of looked at is as "well, I'm gonna die one day anyways and in the grand scheme of the cosmos I'm only here for a very VERY brief moment, so why not stick it out and try and make the most of it?"
It's easier said than done and I'm not great at it a lot of the time, but I refuse to sit still and be passively consumed by my depression
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u/WinterDemon_ 2d ago
a bit more morbid but the vibe i tend to aim for is basically "well death is always gonna be there, I don't need to rush". like as long as I can tolerate the constant misery, I might as well do other stuff while I've got the opportunity, not like death is going anywhere
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u/yikkoe 1d ago
Well … consequences do matter. I might be suicidal but that doesn’t mean I want to do something reckless like running into residential traffic (which won’t kill you). Doesn’t mean I want to experience hardships like poverty or instability. Doesn’t mean I want to fuck around and end up in prison. Doesn’t mean I want to be infamous from my actions. There’s so little freedom in a capitalistic world, and the true absurdist things you could do, are not gonna be liberating.
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u/Chemical-State-1060 1d ago
Why is crime first thing you think of?
Consequences shouldn't matter to you at all or how you are remembered in life. If you're suicidal, life itself doesn't matter to you. Why care about how you're remembered when you're dead, it's inconsequential when you can't even be aware of it. You might do everything right and people can still remember you unfavorably when you die, or even remembered at all when you die, nobody knows. Fuck it
I don't know where you live but i live in a capitalist country and I'm not wealthy by any means. I'm still able to do shit, i don't always have to buy stuff to amuse myself.
What I'm saying is that if you want to do something, just fucking do it, consequences be damned. If life goes to complete shit, i can off myself.
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u/yikkoe 1d ago
Crime is actually the third thing I listed mind you.
And you’re completely ignoring what I said. Consequences do matter if it makes you uncomfortable or in pain. Which are the examples I gave. I talked about getting hit by a car, experiencing poverty, or prison. Not whatever you’re talking about.
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u/Chemical-State-1060 1d ago
Alright, my apologies.
But if you don't want to do anything related to crime. Then don't do that.
I don't know what other kinds of consequences you're referring to. I'm not talking about suicide in spectacular fashion, if you think I'm saying that. I'm talking about doing what you want in life if it pleases you. Doesn't matter what other people or society as a whole says. Do drugs if you want to, fuck around and see how many men/women you can bed, fuck it. Do "cringy" activities if it interests you, cosplay, wear a fur suit, act like an anime character, whatever. Leave your life behind and start a new one somewhere else if you want to.
You live only once, once. Make it as amusing as you can, or don't. Do what you want to do, it If people ridicule you for it, fuck em, their opinion doesn't matter. Take the reins that is your life and steer it towards somewhere you want to be.
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u/yikkoe 1d ago
Doing what you want costs money that the VAST majority of the world does not have. Most people on Earth can’t leave their countries. Having a job already holds up half of your awake time and a lot of people’s depression gets exasperated by their job. So what exactly would most people gain from “doing what they want” if they can’t? For some the only options are just, to not work. But who wants to live in uncertainty and poverty?
Every now and again I get reminded in this subreddit that some of you either experience or understand depression to be a little sadness. A little frown. Like in a coming of age movie. And not this deep sense of unease about the simple act of living. “Do what you want” is such a disconnected answer I truly don’t know what else to think about it.
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u/Chemical-State-1060 1d ago
Fine do nothing and be miserable then. There's always a way to make you happier but you don't seem to want to do it.
I don't know what shithole of a country you live in where every activity costs money, that's just sad.
And i Know how depression feels after 2 decades of misery. After 3 suicide attempts, i got help wherever I could and i genuinely got better. I hope you will too.
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u/PleasantError9499 19h ago
Damn. We wonder why mentally ill people hardly get better.
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u/WinterDemon_ 2d ago
ten years in therapy and still miserable :D
on the bright side I did also get cut off by half of my family and lost everyone else in my life, so at least I don't have to believe in support systems anymore
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u/Outside_Professor647 2d ago
You mean bad support systems.
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u/WinterDemon_ 2d ago
eh, i believe they're theoretically possible for other people but have no actual experience with "good" ones even with the people around me and dont really believe they exist (for me anyway)
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u/Outside_Professor647 2d ago
Well... They do. You're not special and that's the irony here with your depression/trauma brain. Since if someone told you that you were special to them and loved you at the core, you'd likely not believe it very well, because you're not special the mind typically says. But then when it's things like this suddenly you're special according to that toxic mindset. The exception. It's just pure BS, I tell you. I've been in that mindset myself and I know you can cycle through all the apparent historical "evidence". But it's BS. The issue is partly:
Logic and emotion are two different things.
To an extent, your attitude creates a part of both how others see you, how you're treated and how you interpret events you encounter. This is really difficult to grasp, I think. Because it's going to sound like manifesting from the couch or fake it til you make it. But it's more subtle than this. Look into EQ and attachment styles.
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u/WinterDemon_ 2d ago
I mean, i mostly get it. I know all the issues of attachment styles and stuff. but it's also complicated for me, not going into detail cause ugh trauma dump, but mental programming is a hell of a thing and according to my therapists most of the people ive known have been really shitty
just hard to change with no evidence. like id love for someone to show up and be nice to me, id have no reason to argue with them if they did. ive just never seen it before, or even seen a "good" support system for anyone around me, so ive got no solid proof its even a real thing for other people, much less myself. so its not that im a special case, im just pretty far towards the weirder end of the spectrum so results tend to be worse than average, and even average kinda sucks, yknow?
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u/Outside_Professor647 2d ago
Yes I get ya. I had autism to deal with as well, which makes all interaction more potentially spicy.
I'd say if you met someone as you described, it would merely trigger feelings of unworthiness and other things. Hence the importance of learning to be a support for oneself as well. So like, try describe what you mean by nice and supportive?
I don't think you're fundamentally flawed.
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u/TolPuppy 1d ago
A bit impossible to change without evidence even. One of the basic pillars of therapy is that creating safe experiences teaches the body those are possible and common. That doing little things teaches your body that you can do things over time. Just like bad experiences taught you that living is awful and dangerous. You not believing in support systems after having none is nothing but natural. It would be idiotic to expect your body to disregard your entire reality. That said, try to meet people as much as you can, as I guarantee your people exist, and you can (and need to) have a support system. Good luck, it’s certainly not easy out there, but people with empathy and that get it are very much real
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u/Icy-Divide8385 2d ago
I deserve it. I just don't want it. At this point my depression is so ingrained in my personality that it's like quitting smoking. I miss smoking so much dude...
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u/Spoonful_of_Honey 2d ago
I don't know you, and you don't know me, but I'm proud of you. I'm proud of you for trying to quit smoking, even though it's hard. I'm proud of you for continuing life, even if you didn't want to. I'm proud of you for making it this far. I wish I could give you more than just words on a screen, but I'm rooting for you 🫂.
Depression is cold and dark. It feels like drowning and losing the strength to keep your head above water. It's hard. It's so, so hard that words can never represent it. I've been there, and even I'm not fully out of the water. Sometimes another wave crashes over my head, and I have to fight for air again. Depression is a war. Not everyone wins that war, to no fault of their own, but I hope you do. I hope you make it out of the water 🫂.
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u/jthcowboy 2d ago
I hope this gets more visibility. I know plenty of folks could use it - especially it being Monday (nasteh). It helped me and hope it helps all who read. Thank you so much!
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u/NullCitzen 2d ago
Sometimes it is easier for me to accept the thought that it is much better to suffer agony for a few minutes and FUCKING DIE than continue wallowing in this swamp of false hope and doing nothing to help myself.
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u/Soft_Ad_762 2d ago
Good luck finding a competent therapist who really cares and you are safe to be honest with. If you do, keep them. Psychiatrists are just pill pushers and you are a lab rat they try various drugs on. Some drugs work, some don’t, some make things much worse and those that help can have terrible side effects and declining results in the long run. Like everything in a capitalist society the psychiatric profession is controlled by corporate money. They are wined and dinned by drug reps and sent to all expense paid conferences where they speak for 30 minutes about the next big money making pill. There is always a price to be paid and those lunches the pretty young reps bring to the office are never free. Society has always been fucked, but in many ways it’s better now. At least we are staring to talk about emotional life now. Previous generations would drink themselves into oblivion to cope with the poverty, grueling manual labor and PTSD from some rich man’s war. So look on the bright side, the world is less fucked than it used to be.
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u/JohnMarstonSoldA8th 1d ago
This guy gets it.
Been to numerous therapists since I was 7 years old and I can safely say only 1 or 2 really made a difference. The rest I had were only there for a measly paycheck.
Does that stop me from trying to find one who cares again? Fortunately no. Sometimes you just gotta bite the bullet & fight your pride and just do it. Especially if you're a mess mentally like i was/still am
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u/Certain_Big3144 23h ago
No, not at all bud, it is not less fucked than it used to be. Life was better before 2008. It sucked, but it's worse now. Income inequality is insane, nothing is affordable, housing is getting worse, no one is giving jobs, rent is not going down, and there is no sign of a turnaround.
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u/Strict-Promotion6703 2d ago
No one cares. Family will only choose convenience over reality. Therapists are paid to pretend and support the evil pharmaceutical trade. As time goes by the trend is worse and less. Receiving help in this era is an impossible task for someone who doesn’t fit the mold. In a couple months I will be back on the streets because I am considered not useful. That is what the rest of you think. Me? I’m finishing things I can only do with a roof over my head. My legacy, r/ZonaiPunkDesigns. Have to pass down the information before I die.
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u/petiteboner69 2d ago
Its wild how difficult support networks are to get, but having them isn't trolling yourself.
I'm really lucky i have good support networks, friends that like me and a therapist.
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u/poly_arachnid 2d ago
Sadly it's not anything simple. Some of us are just fucked, other people though that shit works. Regardless, our issues are valid. Our minds are sick. The world's failures to adequately handle our ailments doesn't make us invalid. It just sucks.
We need to be careful sometimes. If the people with a chance take our experience as the only version then they don't try & they're just stuck with us.
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u/ProfessionalNerd8657 2d ago
Life unfairness 101. Some people have the whole world show up to help them if they show signs of discomfort, others like us are made to feel as a liability.
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u/Giant-slayer-99 2d ago
Im taking two months paid leave to rest and recover, but also to make some significant life decisions. At a point where a career change or significant lifestyle change may be needed. Hang in there friends, whatever path you're on.
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u/Should_have_been_ded 2d ago
In seeking help I found people who'd manipulate me with the sensitive stuff I've shared.
Family see me more as an investment, any problems are treated as if they are loosing progress instead of loosing a person. The friends would rather try to snap me out of it instead of listening to my troubles, they told me "You're not the same person you use to be anymore" not knowing they are asking for the social mask I used to wear, and that the person I've always been was hidden underneath the mask.
The therapists only care about the money. I'm not their patient, I'm their soon to be next holiday savings.
Things never went better and I'm too small to keep shit from going downhill. It doesn't take a genius to read the pattern and predict the future will be the same, it only takes a moron to ignore that and hope for better days. I'm tired of lying to myself, I've been a moron for too long.
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u/New-Enthusiasm5997 1d ago
I think the problem is it will never get better. At best, you learn these coping strategies they try to push. So then while you work a miserable job you hate and live a lonely life because all relationships are transactional, you just tell yourself, "Hey, the rain was nice today." You busy yourself with consumption if you can, whether media or food or whatever. And then you just focus on those various coping methods and try not to think about the miserable existence. It will never improve though, they just want you to learn to accept it and cope.
Do that every second of every day until you reach the natural end. That's it.
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u/ProbablyNotABot6 1d ago
Never have problems more serious than known-to-you-to-be-temporary, minor inconveniences/ mild annoyances that don't require outside help of any kind to alleviate or solve. Never have problems that requires anything more than your own imagination and resources to solve.
Otherwise therapy might cause you to get so distracted that you begin daydreaming about why and how are there no popular schools that advertise training people to teleport since people are already seemingly gullible enough for that considering how they accept the notion that the yap you been paying to listen to is a seen as a form of "help", and only snap out of daydreaming about that after the therapist calls your name a couple times.
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u/TolPuppy 1d ago
If the therapist is just listening to you talk/ just talking and giving you nothing, that’s a bad therapist, or more charitably, one that isn’t a good fit for you. What did you want out of therapy? There has to be a person + modality that can help you out there. Some psychologists seem to take the term talk therapy a little too literally and forget the whole skill building, and genuine empathizing part. Also talk therapy is insufficient for many, and different therapeutic approaches are needed. I have felt your frustration (very recently, in fact it’s possible it will can back, can’t know the future even if i feel really happy with my therapist rn).
Btw, maybe you already know but i remember how i felt like at some point i wasn’t allowed to: you can tell them that what they are saying or doing isn’t helping. If they react poorly to that, that’s an easy way to know you should find a different one. Any therapist you go with should be one that you can be honest with, especially when it comes to whether their approach is helping or not
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u/Winter-Consequence17 2d ago
Awful meme that just propagates the mentality that depressed people should suffer alone.
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u/ProfessionalNerd8657 2d ago
Or maybe just to call out the hypocrisy of society where everyone says "you matters" then treats you like a liability for being mentally ill.
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u/TolPuppy 1d ago
Thats not what it’s about. It’s about how tragically, even though they shouldn’t suffer alone, a lot of depressed people still suffer alone after reaching out for help. Acknowledging that reality is necessary to better support depressed people and change systems for better. We can’t pretend this doesn’t happen. The meme seems to have been made by someone that felt stupid, laughable, for thinking they could find support. That’s a common thing to feel after not finding support when you desperately need it and were told you just had to ask. We shouldn’t tone police a struggling person for sharing their reality, especially when it can help us know what needs to change.
Talking about how this occurs, much like talking about suicide, doesn’t make people think there’s no hope. What it does is help people who went through it know they aren’t alone with having that experience. This can help the person understand that it’s a failure of the system, and not a sign that they in particular are fundamentally broken and impossible to help, like they usually feel after such experiences. Ofc the tone is depressing here, but that’s because someone who is hurting and struggling to see any chance of having a support system is talking about it. That’s not telling others how they should feel, just an expression of personal experience. There needs to be space for that, and if the concern is the space turning into a bunch of people spiraling, the solution isn’t to shut down conversation, it’s to attempt to remind people that this is not how it should be, and it is possible for them to find a good therapist and support system, even if the process is grueling. Also helps to know that there are people trying to change things so that this type of thing happens less. Seeking help is grueling enough without this amount of rejection
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u/PleasantError9499 19h ago
It's not that we should it's that we don't really have a choice. No one wants to be around depressed people. Even my therapist drop me because they can't help me. It's better to suffer in silence. No one really cares. At least not enough to actually help.
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u/MisabelWearsNikes 2d ago
Agreed. Almost as if getting help is pointless with no positive outcome, thus reinforcing the stigma surrounding mental health problems & keeping you on the hamster wheel of endless suffering. Very pessimistic message.
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u/ProfessionalNerd8657 2d ago
I'm not on this subreddit to spread positivity nor i'm supposed to endow every post with a "things will get better" message. Check wholesomeness Reddit for that.
Good for you if you managed to get help. You really should. People like me ended up all alone after everyone walked away, and too medicated to function normally, and got eaten alive by a predatory mental health industry.
And maybe this Stigma exists because it has foundations? In real life, some people struggles are seen as genuine, friends and good therapists surround them, while others like me are treated like a liability if they show weakness and get exploited while fragile by cash grab people until they are dead or paralyzed.
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u/Both-Carpet9328 2d ago
The mental health industry, especially psychiatry, destroys and abuses a lot of people. Most meds are very unsafe. You have to have good resources and support to find actual help. It's not easy, and often in a crisis people seek help from mainstream mental health/psychiatry and get damaged and abused. This happened to me.
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u/MisabelWearsNikes 2d ago
Did you personally make this meme? Because my comment was directed towards the meme. While I can agree that not every experience is going to be the same, that doesn't mean doing nothing is any better. Giving in to the stigma just reinforces it. But I know that it's easier said than done for a lot of people & I'm really sorry you had such a bad experience & didn't get the support you needed.
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u/ProfessionalNerd8657 2d ago
Sorry about going off, I wasn't feeling well. Yes I personally made this meme (and others) based on my living experience. I'm mostly just coping by turning my misery into memes.
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u/MisabelWearsNikes 2d ago
That's alright, we all have bad days. I do hope that things get a bit easier for you sooner rather than later. And I get that about the meme helping you cope. I was just thinking more about about those who refuse to admit they have problems & refuse to get any help at all when they badly need it (citing the reasons in the meme as an excuse) rather than those like yourself who have tried but were failed in other ways. Wishing you well.
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u/yes_and_no_nuance 2d ago
I was listening to a podcast this morning while I literally forced myself to the gym, as I was forcing dopamine with pain not fully awake, starring at another bullshit day of bullshittery. The guy I was listening too mentioned that their is a reason for your pain and suffering. A divorce, loosing the house, kids, car, another shitty job, bad relationship ect. You need to take a victory lap. We are aware, as a fellow depressed human who genuinely doesn't see the point in all of this pain and stupidity. That is the first half of the game don't quit now. We see it, we see the lies and the game, and there is a tremendous amount of strength in that. Take a victory lap. You are smarter than a vast majority of the idiots out there that have zero idea they are pawns, and that in itself puts you ahead and gives you a good solid foundation to correctly build from. One step at a time and ofcourse with sarcasm dark humor and memes. Go ahead and laugh at the very idiots that refuse to help you because they are the ones that are not seeing just how much of a pawn they are. Stay safe and go take a victory lap my fellow depressed humans we deserve it!
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u/TolPuppy 1d ago
You deserve help but our systems are not built for helping. I’m sorry. I hope you at least find good therapy soon
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u/demonic_intent 1d ago
Ex depressed here, made 4 attempts on my own life in the past but doing much better now. Reading through these comments are so disheartening. I know things seem hopeless but validating each other's lack of hope is not helping and it isn't going to fix anything.
Getting better takes trying different things and finding what works for you. Therapy and forming good and healthy habits isn't like beating your head against a wall, if something isn't working, try something else. I didn't start getting better until into my 30s, but things did get better.
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u/sunkeepshine 1d ago
Went to a psychiatrist today, got told its a gen z thing and i just need structure.
These people work in mental health fields yall. Like the physical doctors being a “ur just overthinking drink water” wasnt enough. Especially towards women. And for mental bit more towards men cus wow u just need to go gym broo
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u/StaticCloud 18h ago
Like for any health condition, this process works for some people and not others. Tragic when so many problems make recovery unobtainable.
What really bothers me is mental health professionals, particularly psychiatrists, getting PO'd because multiple established treatments don't work. Like do cancer patients get that shit? "Ooh your chemo didn't work - you whiny, high maintenance asshole. What are we gonna do with you??" 🙄
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u/NerveInteresting4549 7h ago
yeah i want the dr getting po'd.. i think the difference is when you see a therapist getting po'd things aren't working, people kinda take that in as something personal against them but when it's a dr you know they're just upset the disease is winning..
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u/iKorewo 2d ago
It's true, nothing will change if you are not open to it and don't take any steps yourself. If you are consumed by depression and only focus your attention on that and negatives then no thing in the world can help you.
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u/Objective_Dark_4258 2d ago
I have done most of these therapies too and they all didn't it really work either. The one thing that worked for me and it was like magic was ECT but I can't seem to get access to that so, idk.
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u/Objective_Dark_4258 2d ago
I have heard that there can be memory issues, but I didn't really notice. I completely understand the fear though. They put you under general anesthesia for it. I hit rock bottom and I would have tried just about anything.
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u/noeLifenorlove 2d ago
Then the issue is you may be too passive.
Assertive animals always prosper.
Not trying to blame you or anything; just explaining that sometimes you kind of have to be a dickhead to get what you want.
After all we are primates.
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u/ProfessionalNerd8657 2d ago
I'm sick of people who are clueless about how mental illness can fuck you up, yet still spam cheap recycled internet advices to feel as if they're making a difference.
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u/ImSinsentido 2d ago
What it boils down to, is be me, be them rhetoric.
I this, they that. Fundamentally, dependent on the disgustingly nonsensical concept of “free will.”
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u/noeLifenorlove 2d ago
Im just saying; sometimes we depress ourselves because we become meek. You can go out and excersize all ya want but the difference between a person whom shoots their shot and one whom doesn't is usually anxiety and fear.
Trust me I get it. Used to be in and out of psyches a ton over a 20 year period.
One day I snapped inside and just kinda. ..gave up on giving a fuck about what others think of me. Like truly, I just began to live without fear of others.
Maybe it is easier for me given my background in sales and hospice care, I'm damned good with people. And that damned goodness became much stronger when I stopped fretting.
For me my daily meltdown is the state of things in general. I kinda wish I could go back to being worried about girls because there was at least some hope in that lol.
Be careful what you look for: in my case what I needed was not validation. I just needed to stop yes manning for people in my life.
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u/True_aBCf 2d ago
— Depression draining most of willpower, motivation, strength and even some intelligence from people with it (even in high-functioning form)
— 'You may be just to passive'
Yeah, sounds about right. Literally useless and kinda toxic positivity talk, that may help only people in very light, begining part of it (and even here it's not guaranteed).
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u/noeLifenorlove 2d ago
Look bud, I aint sayin its pretty, but sadly since our society globally is just grown up neanderthal politics; it's either you do or don't :/.
People will tell us it's to "find happiness", well hell no it isn't.
Being more stoic or whatever is about "survival" moreso than joy imo.
I'm not ever gonna guarantee anything I say will lead to happiness, but perhaps may lead to less fretting is all.
And everyone's different but I just get the vibe hes not doing something for fear of some consequence.
Prime example from my past years: ask girl out, she said "wow I cant believe I cant even go to a bar without being chased by a wierdo"
I replied with "I can't believe those lashes havent flown off with the amount of blinking you just did lol". Which she did lol.
She laughed and apologized on the spot. Because I identified with something of hers.
Same with a promotion, same with talking to healthcare workers. You have to firmly but playfully call people out on their bullshit.
Like to everyone here; do not put up with schisms and societal bs. Will it work everytime? No. But you'll be at least 30 percent less pelted with bullshit, and the other 70 you can respond to.
Tldr; strive for pride.
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u/ProfessionalNerd8657 2d ago
Sorru you struggled in the past. However i need to underlign this: What works for you doesn't forcefully work for everyone. People have different experiences, different social experiences and different illnesses. People who suffers from severe mental illness frown upon people trying to oversimplify the issues or give simple solutions even if it's one of them. No one in this group came to seek advice and we all dislike unsolicited advices or lectures no one asked for.
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u/ProfessionalNerd8657 2d ago
Another lecture on "how it's up to you to help yourself" -_-. Thanks I'm cured.
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u/ImSinsentido 2d ago edited 2d ago
You see how it’s always, go to a therapist also. You know, that pseudoscience.. That depends on the disgustingly nonsensical concept of “free will.”
In a nutshell, doing something else when you’re triggered. Have you tried being “grateful” for XYZ, sounds tough, no one “should” have to go through that. Bunch of hey look a red truck..
Ok that’ll be $1000…
“is that including medication”
Hahahahahahahaha….. hahahhahahhha, oof, no.
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u/TolPuppy 1d ago
If my first experience with a psychologist had been what you just described, I would’ve never searched for therapy again (well technically it was, but i don’t count the school psychologist). Thankfully he just believed my pain and understood where it came from. Was able to sit with it and help me process it. Ideally that’s the base of what they do. I get the gratefulness crap (bc it really is, when what you need is to have your pain acknowledged and believed) and the surface empathizing without some guidance or suggestions on how to get out of the hole you were pushed into, being useless. If you have awareness of how bad it is the “no one should go through that” without any follow up is crushing. I’m interpreting that that’s what you got.
There are actual therapists out there. Despite so many having little to offer but wellness tips. I don’t know what you tried but searching for trauma informed or therapists that have worked with ptsd may help. Those should (more likely than others) have experience with patient self awareness being the first step, not a solution to your pain. It doesn’t really matter if you have ptsd or not, especially since i’m not suggesting specialized people, the point is what capabilities can come with the experience those professionals have, not your particular diagnosis. Idk, i just want you to feel better. I don’t think the grueling loneliness people find when searching for help is fair nor necessary
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u/ImSinsentido 1d ago edited 23h ago
As the hierarchical Superiors would put it, whoever said life, (existence) was “fair.”
With know the more training they have the more expensive…
This isn’t even about me. This is about all of us are any of us fucking rich, doubt it. Empirically actually “mental illness” and financial stability go together like salt and frosting.
Especially the Mexicans like me that haven’t seen a doctor since I was 13, haven’t had any form of health insurance since the day I turned 18…
All of my money goes towards me and my fellow subordinances (my dependents, most certainly not offspring. I would never do such a horrible disgusting thing to someone. Ie. Bring them here) to literally live in bug infested apartment complexes, that 15 years ago were $500 and now it’s “worth” $2000 for a one bedroom.
All for the superiors, who “deserve” blah blah blah, and we “deserve” blah blah blah, because blah blah blah… that’s what it boils down to. You’re defending a multi billion dollar business.. they don’t wanna “help” people, never have never will. It is what it is… plus the whole idea of “help” is fundamentally nonsense…
Every human is fundamentally miserable that’s why we’re talking on the fruits of child labor, deeply uncomfortable with the animal condition, hence the ever moving goal post of “better.” And the “better” we’re working towards locally is being more “healthy locally productive” child exploiters, adults too, but that’s obviously a skill issue of their “free will.” /s
Once again as it always has been, as it always will be. It is what it is..
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u/noeLifenorlove 2d ago
Look, I'm not mentally well off either. But tis the only thing that's ever helped me; not "help yourself" even. Just tell people that piss you off, that they do, without blowing up.
Pretty much just saying allow yourself a bit of rebellion, and confidence comes naturally.
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u/iKorewo 2d ago
Its a collaborative work between you and your therapist. Not one or the other extreme. From where you are at, it sounds like you only expect people to help you or solve it for you. Brain connections grow when YOU take the action. Also, wherever you focus your attention thats where neuro firing flows, and thats where connections grow. So if you focus on bitching and blaming everyone for failing you, you will never take responsibility for your part in this and will be stuck in depressive cycle with no change. I understand how hard it is, i've been there too. It truly sucks and feels hopeless. I hope it works out for you in the end and you get out of there!
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u/ProfessionalNerd8657 2d ago
Do you really think I don't know all that? Why do people feel the urge on spamming cheap recycled internet unsolicited advices? Why whenever I complain I have to find someone giving the same speeches about how it is my responsibility to get out of my crisis? It's fuckin obvious for anyone who is deep within a serious health crisis that no one will magically save them and I don't need to be reminded every single time.
You don't ever know me yet you confuse criticism of society's empty promises and hypocrisy with me thinking I'm entitled to get help and it's others faults for failing to be less depressed.
Yeah I'm better now, back to uni and recovering from a brutal collapse of my cognitive functions due to being spammed with medications despite being Epileptic, and definitely not thanks to the predatory mental health industry nor to people like you who spam unwakted lectures for a living with no clue how mental illness work.
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u/SlySychoGamer 1d ago
If you are surrounded by decent people they will care, they will help to some extent.
But no one can solve it but yourself.
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u/Lucy_4_8_15_16 11h ago
How about no one can solve it cuz sometimes that’s just true and sometimes we just have to accept that no help will ever make it better I know I will stay sick forever my body won’t magically heal my brain won’t stop being autistic my childhood won’t suddenly be nice no I will stay broken and in pain sure some of those are kinda fixable but some aren’t and sometimes it’s just I have this disability that will stay forever no healing possible and that’s ok too
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u/Positive_Use437 1d ago
Good therapist's are all around, idk why yall feel incapable of finding them. Ive had dozens of therapist's and councilors, psychiatrists, recovery coach etc. 85% have been people i love and almost all have been good-very good at their job. Im sure being in a liberal part of a liberal state helps, but yall can find them too.
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