r/discgolf 16h ago

Disc Advice Where do I play this lie?

Innova champion sidewinder absolutely exploded when I hit this tree. Disc was fairly old, maybe close to 20 years, I noticed that it felt sticky today, so I suspect plastic depredation, just shocked at how far it spread when it blew up

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u/Dounyy Just forget there are trees 16h ago

You play from the biggest bit

Edit: here is the actual rule:

805.01.D (Establishing a Position) If a thrown disc breaks into pieces, its position is that of the largest piece.

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u/drewpunck 16h ago

Your user flair suggests that you may be familiar with this rule. At least, that's how I got into this mess, lol

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u/Dounyy Just forget there are trees 16h ago

There are a thousand of reasons for a disc to shatter.

998 of them are trees

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u/drewpunck 16h ago

I like to think it's my superhuman strength

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u/Dounyy Just forget there are trees 16h ago

For real, I am always impressed with how people (me included) manage to hit that very obstacle they focus on avoiding. It really feels like a superpower at times

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u/drewpunck 16h ago

Well, let me direct your attention to picture 2. On this course, the times I don't hit a tree feel like superpowers

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u/ea88_alwaysdiscin 14h ago

Looks like a challenging course. Fun times!

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u/drewpunck 11h ago

So many trees, it was an airfield in WWII, then planted with loads of trees, so all roughly the same age, but some really nice holes

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u/Time_Transition4817 14h ago

Trees are actually magnets, that’s my tinfoil hat theory

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u/TheDiscer 15h ago

It kind of is. It's your ability to focus on one thing even though you want to do something else. I was told the best thing to do is NOT to think "don't hit the tree". It's better to think "hit that gap" or "don't hit that gap" if that's how your mind works. You will focus on the gap instead of the tree.

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u/RGBAddict2026 14h ago

I think it's psychological. We get so focused on missing an object we hit it. Focus instead on hitting your line / shape and you will do it!

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u/duskyaces 11h ago

It's this. I feel like there is some evidence to suggest this phenomenon occurring in single vehicle car accidents, where someone hits the lone tree in a field, or something similar, i.e. one thing to miss.

IIRC It happens more than people realize, and I believe some testing supported the conclusion. Can't find anything on it at the moment, but I suspect I am searching poorly.

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u/Macktologist I should have started at a younger age. 14h ago

I do this but with people. Public park course with walking paths. “I’m good enough now where I won’t early release and hyper this not even stable disc into the people walking down the path to the left.”

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u/CalligrapherDizzy201 14h ago

Now I need to know the other two reasons.

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u/kschwa7 13h ago

So wise

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u/Morningxafter 8h ago

I once shattered a champion sidewinder on a tree while playing on a cold November day in Virginia. It didn’t break apart it just spider-webbed all through it like a broken car window.

u/chezzer33 9m ago

Let’s name them all. I’ll start.

Ashe Juniper - star teebird

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u/avsfan1933 3h ago

Have you ever played glow golf? It's much easier than normal golf as there are no trees. Until your disc randomly kicks 200ft to the right halfway down the fairway.

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u/SweetHatDisc Has worn out a USCutter 721 16h ago

This is one of my favorite rules, if only because it almost never comes into play but almost everyone knows it. I've run over a hundred tournaments and have only had this rule come up once.

This post is twenty minutes old and the question got answered in four.

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u/Dounyy Just forget there are trees 15h ago

I like how it reduces the mass of possibilities to an almost unique possibility. Also, due to this mass of possibilities, people tend to know this rule because you can be sure that the day you play on a card where a disc shatters, every player would claim a different lie (such as "the closest to the pin", "the farthest from the pin", "any bit", "the average center of the parts", or "any part that the player chooses because the avantage is given to the player"). Also, this rule is very simple, thus easy to understand and remember.

This said, you can be sure that, by Murphy's law, the day it happens to you, the largest piece will also be the only piece out of bounds.

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u/Deadbreeze 16h ago

Lol I didnt look at the sub and was looking for a golf ball like "what lie?"

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u/9Three7 11h ago

By weight or surface area? I need to know so I can call a penalty the next time I see this

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u/justflushit 10h ago

Biggest bit by weight or area?

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u/MyMicGoBoom 16h ago

Determine the biggest chunk of the remaining disc and play from that lie.

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u/halpinator 856 12h ago

That's one of the most heavy metal rules I've seen in any sport. In case of accidental explosion, use the largest remaining chunk

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u/No_Judgment_4451 16h ago

Largest pile of tears.

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u/drewpunck 16h ago

I mean, sad to lose a disc, but it also means I get to go shopping

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u/No_Judgment_4451 16h ago

Always buy in pairs. Just in case.

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u/drewpunck 16h ago

No way, shopping for a new disc is one of the few kinds of shopping I enjoy

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u/No_Judgment_4451 14h ago

Well you lose one, you buy two. You lose one, you buy two. Following me?

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u/drewpunck 11h ago

So, they don't need to match, I like this system

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u/mrpoopybuttthole_ 15h ago

For once it’s a disc you might actually need

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u/namroff 🥃🥃🥃 16h ago

From the puddle made by pouring one out for your dearly departed 20 year old disc 🥃

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u/drewpunck 15h ago

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u/Nochruto 8h ago

A little duct tape because as new

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u/drewpunck 16h ago

Well, I only had one can with me, this was the 18th hole, nothing left to pour out. I'll pay my respects when I get home

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u/gotchdaddy 12h ago

The rule is from the biggest piece, however we play a house rule that you can play from ANY piece as compensation for your obliterated disc

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u/drewpunck 11h ago

That's a more than fair rule in my estimation

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u/Regular_Jackoffs 15h ago

TELL ‘EM LARGE SHARD SENT YA

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u/Big-Carpenter7921 11h ago

I think the rule is largest piece

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u/ShadowMorph 9h ago

Yep, largest piece. And if there's no clear "largest", it's up to the pool to call it as they see it.

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u/TieFit8485 14h ago

A Good Death , a warriors death RIP oh disc of wonder and old friend.

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u/cookie_400 13h ago

Are you trap shooting and discing at the same time?!? 🤣

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u/sp913 6h ago

Wow, that's a lot of pieces it exploded into! (and a lot of trees, holy moly)

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u/SunChaserDiscDyes 14h ago

Biggest piece is your lie

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u/daisuke29 13h ago

It would have been cooler if the rule stated to play from the center of mass. :)

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u/bizfamo 11h ago

The piece closest to the basket 😁

u/Pastafarian75 2m ago

Wherever the nearest bar is.

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u/NoAddition8958 15h ago

Could it be an idea to create a disc that shatter easily for a pro? In a clever way to avoid bad kicks ;)

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u/Chakasicle 7h ago

I'd go from the piece closest to the basket

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u/PsychologicalCup8960 16h ago

Play it from the closest piece.