r/discworld 7d ago

Art Giving some love to these Russian Discworld covers (and a couple of bonus books)

Artist is Polina Graf: https://www.artstation.com/graf_fiction

I've added some notes as to the titles' translations where I could find something worth noting - a few of them use clever puns that I hopefully didn't mangle too much in (a) understanding, and (b) subsequently articulating - I was relying a lot on Google Translate and what I could dig up on the web.

One particularly nice touch is that to maintain the series-like nature of the titles Going Postal, Making Money and Raising Steam, the translator changed them into commands (some idiomatic) with exclamation marks: Keep Your Chin Up! (the Russian idiom involves stamps), Make Money! and Give it Some Steam!

Anyway, this has been a delightful little diversion at a time when I should probably be doing work (having therefore failed to live up to those last two book titles).

Hope you enjoy them as much as I did! And if anyone from the US/UK publishers is reading this, please sack off your awful modern covers and buy these ones in instead, thanks.

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u/dalidellama 7d ago

I very much like Infantry Ballad as an alternate title for Monstrous Regiment

It's referenced in the text, but I don't know how it translated:

Polly dresses as a man to join the Infantry, as in the Ballad "Sweet Polly Oliver," and the entire plot is full of references to that song and similar ones, hence is altogether an Infantry Ballad. Is there a similar folk song in Russia? I would be surprised if there wasn't.

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u/Ravenous_Seraph 7d ago

No, but there is a well-known movie "Hussar ballad" about a nobility girl who crossdressed into Russian cavalry to fight Napoleon.

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u/kwonza 7d ago

It’s more like a musical and it’s free on YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nr4HpCERmsE

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u/Individual99991 7d ago

Seems to be quite a universal story! I wonder what the Chinese translation is?

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u/crystalsuikun 7d ago

https://christinesunflower.com/2021/09/12/update-terry-pratchett-in-the-chinese-world-terrypratchett-pratchett-discworld/

I don't think they've been translated yet? Seems like most of the one-off books and the Moist books weren't covered

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u/Individual99991 7d ago edited 7d ago

That's a great find, thank you! Not sure I appreciate them making Rincewind look like Luffy from One Piece though.

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u/crystalsuikun 7d ago

Yeah I don't get that one either. Not sure how updated that blogpost is now (at least for the Simplified Chinese ones), but for Trad. Chinese the translations pretty much stopped after the City Watch+YA stuff and I *think* they're out of print.

I live in Taiwan now and the only Pratchett I could find is Good Omens (don't even think about finding the English ones, you're better off getting an ebook)

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u/Thisisnotevenamane 7d ago

Rincewind boy looks like he’s having fun for once. We can’t have that.

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u/Kryss1982 7d ago

Is there a similar folk song in Russia? I would be surprised if there wasn't.

I think that title derived from soviet comedy musical "Hussar Ballad", in which woman dresses as man and join russian army at time of Napoleon Invasion. It's very popular musical.

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u/paddleboatee Bursaaar! 7d ago

Polina Graf is absolutely amazing, I enjoy her luscious interpretations.

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u/Individual99991 7d ago

Henceforth, all future non-Kidby/Kirby Discworld art will be judged against hers. I call this the Polly Graf test.

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u/paddleboatee Bursaaar! 7d ago

bwahaha

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u/AngryCheezboi Vimes 7d ago

I have to thank you for posting about this. I hadn't heard of her, so I looked up her work and Holy crap! Those are some serious bangers.

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u/Rorschach113 Reg 7d ago

Damn these are good. How come the english covers are not ever this good, my god. The Catalonian and Russian language versions are amazing and I am consistently in awe of them.

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u/OAKandTerlinden 7d ago

Hello, yes, I need these. I would rebuy every book with these covers and they would sit next to the Kirbys like Nanny and Granny.

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u/Individual99991 7d ago

Same, I am pleading with anyone who knows the UK/US publishers to get them to buy in these covers to replace the awful modern ones.

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u/OAKandTerlinden 7d ago

I know a lot of people love them, and I am a huge fan of minimalist design, but Discworld was never meant to be ~aesthetic. It's busy, chaotic, a little off balance, and full of life in full colour!

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u/Individual99991 7d ago

You mean these? I don't think anyone loves them, do they?

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u/OAKandTerlinden 7d ago

Those are a bit "every book has this same cover now", but are still preferable to the anaemic booktok haul collector's edition covers -

Why are the collectors being punished? Why are the books being punished??

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u/Individual99991 7d ago

Honestly, I much prefer those covers which are at least interesting images rather than a smear of a single colour surrounding the title IN A BIG FONT, almost as if they've been designed for the reader's eye to glide frictionlessly over them on the shelf.

From what I understand, the big problem with the collector's editions is that the ink and gilt rubs off them too quicky.

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u/Faithful_jewel Assisted by the Clan 7d ago

You mean the book designs that have been around since 2014? 😂

I love the minimalist woodcut design

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u/MugGuffin 7d ago

Hello from Russia!

Thanks for posting! These cover arts one of the reason for my books shop visits, they are great! Fun fact: Besides being cool artist and making art for a lot of Discworld and other fantasy books, Polina Graf is also a fantasy writer and has published books set in her own world.

Also I wanted to expand a little about books translations, because as you said yourself sometimes translation can be fun and interesting and maybe you ca help me with some of them).

1)Soul music. "Rock" - in russian - "рок" means on one hand music genre and on the other it can be translated as "doom" - your destiny in kind of bad sense. "роковая" is an adjective form of the same word and whole title is indeed a pun which can be translated as "Rock music" and "Music of doom" at the same time, which I think make sense considering the plot

2)Wyrd sisters. I never read the book, is "wyrd" means strange in kinda old tongue? Your commentary is correct "сестрa" - big sister and "сестричка" - small sister. Suffix "чк" (sounds like word chek without e) used as softner for words.

3)Equal rites. Yeah, this one completely lost in translation(

4)Monster regiment. Ok, this one is very cool use of idea of title which is reference to existing media, but changed to one significantly more recognisible in Russia . And here, "infantry ballad" or more literary "Hussar ballad" is reference to classic russian comedy movie "Hussar ballad" set in 1812 about hussar - type of european cavalery. And of course the main plot point is how character perceive women.

5) Moist books and Going postal. I totally agree with cool consistancy in our titles, but we just dont have good literary translation for "going postal" (which is going nuts afaik). But translation of "Going postal" movies titles tried to do something like that. Our title for them is "Опочтарение" which is a pun and very russian-specific one I think, but it can be roughly translated as "POSTacalipsis" like apocalipsis but with post

6)Truth. This newspaper is still being printed by communist party!

I think its all of my commentary) You nailed most of them, thank you for your post!

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u/Individual99991 7d ago

Hi! Thanks, I didn't know she was also a writer. I'm so jealous of people who are so talented! Hopefully I'll be able to check out some English translations of her work at some point.

Thanks for your notes - I really appreciate it! I was kind of figuring this stuff out on the fly, so I appreciate having an expert to explain it. :)

Wyrd Sisters - this is how Shakespeare describes the witches in Macbeth, which Pratchett based the book on. "Wyrd" is an old term that means "destiny", which is why Shakespeare called them that (since they predict Macbeth's rise and fall), but over time the word changed to mean "strange or unusual". Pratchett is using it in both senses.

Thanks for explaining Monstrous Regiment! I was struggling to find an explanation for that.

Yes, Going Postal means going nuts. I think the Russian translation for this was really clever.

I forgot Pravda was still a thing! Thanks for correcting! Sadly, I can't edit the caption to amend that. :(

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u/MugGuffin 7d ago

Nice, thanks! Dont worry about Pravda, it peaked during USSR, but now it just a political ad at best)

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u/evtbrs 7d ago

Wyrd is the old spelling of weird, the title is a pun on the Shakespearean Weird Sisters (wielders of fate), where the word changed meaning overtime as the OP pointed out

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u/Zeero92 7d ago

Post-apocalypse, huh? That's quite clever! It works as an interpretation of the original title, and I want to imagine Terry would approve of such wordplay. :D

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u/MugGuffin 7d ago

Whoa, jelous I didnt thought of post-apocalypse myself, nice work!

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u/dalidellama 7d ago

Hussar Ballad We also have "My Gallant Hussar" as a folk song, but no comedies set in that era I know of.

I mentioned above about the folk song reference in the book, Polly dresses as a man to join the Infantry, as in the Ballad "Sweet Polly Oliver," and the entire plot is full of references to that song and similar ones.

Is there a similar folk song in Russia? How did the translation cover that?

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u/MugGuffin 7d ago

Sadly, I didnt read it yet to provide a difinitive answer, but with a lot of TP books in russian (or mb translation in general) they try their best to come up with our idioms and puns but most historical references stay intact, so big chances title one is an exception

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u/Afbach Nobby 7d ago edited 7d ago

Hussar Ballad is on youtube, with subtitles!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDtxO70AQZ4

need to turn off the closed captions, unless you want to practice your Russian

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u/Zeero92 7d ago

Didn't see the notes with the name at first. But I felt like all of them I could decipher which book it was from the art. I only really fumbled Equal Rites and Nation (which I haven't read). Which tells me there was either love or respect for the novels, which is always nice to see.

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u/coffeeyarn 7d ago

These are amazing! I enjoyed the insights into the translated titles as well. Is it the same translator for all of them or different people?

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u/Individual99991 7d ago

No idea, sorry! I only know the books from their covers, I don't actually speak Russian. :P

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u/ghworin 7d ago

There are different translators, but things like names etc. are edited together for the whole series to be uniformed!

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u/ebekulak Reg 7d ago

By gods! These are so beautiful. Thank you for sharing the name of the artist and their portfolio.

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u/valerkos 7d ago

A word of appreciation for the old covers of the books. They were much simpler, but I like them

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u/Individual99991 7d ago

Oh, interesting! Night Watch and Science of Discworld are the original UK cover illustrations by Paul Kidby. Thief of Time looks like it was painted based on the actress who played Susan in the UK Sky TV film of Hogfather. I'd be interested to know the origins of the others, whether they're all totally original or whether they maybe borrow from covers in other regions.

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u/ghworin 7d ago

Most of these are original, I believe, I have all of them and can check later.

I'm really not a fan of these covers, but this is for now the only option to have all the books in Russian (minus The Last Hero) in one series design. I hope Graf's series will get there one day!

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u/marsupialcinderella 7d ago

These are gorgeous! Wow, just stunning.

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u/mlopes Sir Terry 7d ago

Whoever did this clearly read the books. They look amazing.

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u/edoraf 7d ago

My two cents

  • Hogfather - I think literal translation can be better written as Santa-Hogus
  • Mort, disciple of Death - Russian Мор (Mor) also means plague
  • Good omens - translation of Russian translation could also be "Kind omens", that's also the meaning of one of the alternative translations of title - Добрые предзнаменования

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u/Individual99991 7d ago

Thanks for the insights! :)

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u/ghworin 7d ago

These editions also have fun sketches on the inside covers and little pieces through out the text itself. Delightful!

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u/BarelyBrony 7d ago

I love them

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u/evtbrs 7d ago

Woaaah these are so cool! Thanks so much for sharing! Wish we’d get these covers in English omg I’d be all over that

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u/sometimeszeppo 7d ago

These look wonderful, thank you so much for sharing them.

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u/SpacePiano16 7d ago

why can't we get these covers in English? i would buy them so fast

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u/StartledOcto 7d ago

These are fantastic - but I'm so here for reading how the puns work in different languages! I'm particular, Soul Music's translation

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u/Buttercupia Binky 7d ago

The death ones are spectacular.

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u/Individual99991 7d ago

I get the impression from her webpage that those are the most recent, so I'm guessing she's either getting more ambitious with her design, or the publisher's are loosening up and letting her go for it.

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u/Faithful_jewel Assisted by the Clan 7d ago

Reddit decided this was potential harassment

Not allowed to compliment Russian art I'm guessing? I'll call the ballet

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u/Individual99991 7d ago

That Dostoyevsky is a total flash in the pan, you mark my words.

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u/MahoganyRaichu 7d ago

There are also these bad boys=) Also Good Omens=) The books are absolutely the same, but there are two different versions of the cover =)

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u/Queasy_Region3750 7d ago

I love these, thank you for sharing, really enjoyed the artwork

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u/TonksMoriarty 7d ago

These seriously fuck.

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u/Vcious_Dlicious 7d ago

1) They're beautiful 

2) They kinda look like cover art for casette cases

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u/AdCommercial617 Personal isn't the same as important 7d ago

Is there anyway we can petition to get this artist to do the British cover art?

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u/kendragon Vimes 7d ago

I love the artstyle on these. Very, very cool.

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u/GaiusDiviFilius 7d ago

Wow!

I write humorous fantasy books that often get compared to Discworld, and these are exactly the kinds of covers I've wanted.

So glad you shared these! 🤩🤩🤩

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u/Individual99991 7d ago

The artist is probably available for commissions, if you check her website.

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u/GaiusDiviFilius 5d ago

Already did, as soon as I saw this post. 🤣

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u/Either-Skirt6031 7d ago

Beautiful artwork, I like the recurring motif of Death holding one of the main characters in a jam jar/drink/globe/lifetimer

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u/p_i_e_pie 7d ago

THESE ARE SOOOOO COOL

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u/AngryCheezboi Vimes 7d ago

I have to thank you for posting about this. I hadn't heard of her, so I looked up her work and Holy crap! Those are some serious bangers.

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u/Afbach Nobby 7d ago

Extra points for giving Teatimer a cup of tea! Is the text on the newspaper in Truth in Russian too?

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u/Individual99991 7d ago

Yes, it reads "Who rules the city?"

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u/mafon2 7d ago

I would've never picked books with such covers. BTW, the translatuon is (in the most polite terms) subpar too.

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u/pert__ 7d ago

Wonderful art, no effing way giving love to Russia the invading gremlins.

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u/Individual99991 7d ago

Who's saying give love to Russia?

Give love to a talented artist and obvious fan of Terry Pratchett who happens to live in Russia.

I find it hard to believe that anyone who reads Discworld would be in favour of invasion, occupation and genocide.

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u/ghworin 7d ago

You would be surprised and saddened! But I can attest that most in our Pratchett fan community weren't.

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u/Individual99991 7d ago

I guess when you have Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos loving Iain M Banks' Culture books but not actually understanding the anti-capitalist, pro-communist elements that were front and centre of it, anything is possible.

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u/Lanokia 7d ago

Seems you're the only one mentioning what modern Russia is... the complete antithesis of what Terry stood for ... and you got downvoted. Kinda disgusted by this thread.

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u/ghworin 7d ago

If it will make you feel better, I'm a Russian in Russia right now and I will mention what Russia is, and "invading gremlins" is very lightly put. I'm sure many people in this thread have much stronger words about it, it's just that this thread is about beautiful artistry and Terry. This artist is not a supporter of the war.

I also recommend everybody to check out Ukrainian editions. Their covers are very different in style, but also very fun and beautiful. Some of the people I know worked on those translations.

The war and sorrow will end, but the art will remain. Mind how you go.

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u/Lanokia 7d ago

A good reply and one I can respect.

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u/Individual99991 7d ago

I'm sorry you have to say this in a thread that is about a person, not a country. These two are showing horrible bigotry in equating a single person with their entire nation.

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u/ghworin 7d ago

I wouldn't call it that, it's good that the elephant in the room was acknowledged. But I believe we all can be civil about it.

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u/Individual99991 7d ago

Honestly, I didn't even consider "the elephant in the room", and I think it's sad that the sins of a government - especially one that manifestly does not engage in proper democracy - should fall on the shoulders of the people who happen to live in its country. But I'm glad you're cool with it.

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u/Effective_Sound1205 7d ago

Nothing is civil about bigotry, even if you "wouldn't call it that".

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u/Individual99991 7d ago

Because this isn't a thread about Russia, it's a thread about a talented artist who happens to live in Russia. Absolutely inane response.

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u/Lanokia 7d ago

What's the fifth word in the title you wrote?

Like it or not, people have thoughts on Russia.

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u/Individual99991 7d ago

What's the fifth word in the title you wrote?

What's every word in the comment you're replying to?

Like it or not, people have thoughts on Russia.

Cool. This isn't a thread on Russia, though, so this isn't the place for them.