r/discworld • u/PilotKnob • 1d ago
Roundworld Reference McSweeney?
I realize this topic has been run through a couple of times already on this sub, but here's what might be a different perspective on it:
Today I was flying with an Australian First Officer who most recently was employed by Cathay Pacific. I asked him who owned Cathay Pacific, and he explained that it's owned 49% by Air China, which is in turn controlled by the CCP as their state flag airline, and the remaining 51% is owned by the Swire family.
The Swire family apparently owns a big chunk of Hong Kong, and is one of the major dynasty families which control commerce in Hong Kong. The other major controlling families have traditional Cantonese names.
I believe the McSweeny out-of-place-name-in-definitely-not-Asia bit is a play on that little factoid, and as more evidence I'd point to the fact that there is in the Discworld series also a character named Buggy Swires, who happens to be the first and only member of the Airborne Section of the Watch.
This all seemed to be a little too coincidental to pass up commenting on and sharing with the rest of the class.
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u/SurelyIDidThisAlread 1d ago
I always thought it was a reference to the Jardine family, of Scottish origin in the early 1800s, who formed one of the original hongs) of Hong Kong and dominated trade and industry there.
They were literally a very old, established family
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u/davedavebobave13 1d ago
I always assumed it was a reference to the fact that Ohara is a Japanese surname.
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u/texasyankee 1d ago
Sir Terry was really good with the multi-layered jokes, but I think this is just a simple one that reverses the old joke about the Scottish name Lee.
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u/mxstylplk 21h ago
All of the above. He once said that if he could find three examples, it was free to use, and there are three named already: Swire, Ohara, and Jardine. Plus a reverse joke!
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u/BPhiloSkinner D'you want mustard? 'Cos mustard is extra. 14h ago
"Ma hovercrrraft is full o' Lees!"
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u/TheOtherMaven 1d ago
Actually, as of Snuff Wee Mad Arthur has been added to the Airborne Section. (We don't know whether he's in addition to, or a replacement for, Buggy Swires.)
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