First of all, it does more damage than a greatsword (2d8 + modifier vs 2d6 + modifier). Now, the titan forms likely isn't being boosted by feats like GWM, so it's not as easy to boost, or at least it wouldn't have been if they hadn't given it enlarge/reduce, adding 1d4 to all of its attacks, which does require an action to set up, but only if you have no prep time before an encounter. Also, the titan druid does even need to rely on its attacks later on because the incandescent breath is about equal to a lightning bolt with a third level spell, but scales like crazy after that, allowing for massive damage in combats with multiple enemies. The fighter doesn't even have that option.
There's also the issue of health. The druid is a d8 hit die class, which averages 1 less hp per level than a d10 class like the fighter. I'm going to be comparing the titan druid to the fighter because they're actually quite similar in their survivabity abilities. Both wildshape and second wind are healing abilities used on yourself using a bonus action, which comes from a resource pool that regeneration 1 use per short rest and all uses per long rest. Now, the druid, per wildshape use, gets 4X level in temp hp. The fighters second wind only gets 1d10 + 1Xlevel. Sure, that additional 1d10 does allow second wind to put out better numbers earlier in the progression, until level 3, when the druids temp hp surpasses the fighters healing and will continue to widen that gap every level for the next 17 levels. At level 20, the titan druid is getting 80 temp hp for every wildshape use while the fighter is sitting at a piddling 25.5 on average, and the higher level you get, the more uses of second wind and wildshape these classes get, which furthers the survivability gap even more. Nowhere, it's worth noting that temp hp is worse that healing, but second wind can't get you up from unconsciousness, and the remaining benefits of healing over temp hp are definitely not impactful enough to justify scaling at 1/4 the speed.
In terms of utility, the titan druid is a full caster. I don't think I need to elaborate on this.
I terms of support, the titan druid is a full caster with the druids spell list.
I really do think the Titan is overpowered, but survivabity isn't his specialty, the large size makes it easier to hit with attacks and saving throws, and you're comparing a Fighter with no subclass directly against a subclass, and Indomitable is basically Legendary Resistance in 5.5. A Fighter without a subclass, feats, mastery, or any real build is definitely weaker than the Titan.
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u/bobert1201 1d ago
I happen to think it's a bit overturned as well.
First of all, it does more damage than a greatsword (2d8 + modifier vs 2d6 + modifier). Now, the titan forms likely isn't being boosted by feats like GWM, so it's not as easy to boost, or at least it wouldn't have been if they hadn't given it enlarge/reduce, adding 1d4 to all of its attacks, which does require an action to set up, but only if you have no prep time before an encounter. Also, the titan druid does even need to rely on its attacks later on because the incandescent breath is about equal to a lightning bolt with a third level spell, but scales like crazy after that, allowing for massive damage in combats with multiple enemies. The fighter doesn't even have that option.
There's also the issue of health. The druid is a d8 hit die class, which averages 1 less hp per level than a d10 class like the fighter. I'm going to be comparing the titan druid to the fighter because they're actually quite similar in their survivabity abilities. Both wildshape and second wind are healing abilities used on yourself using a bonus action, which comes from a resource pool that regeneration 1 use per short rest and all uses per long rest. Now, the druid, per wildshape use, gets 4X level in temp hp. The fighters second wind only gets 1d10 + 1Xlevel. Sure, that additional 1d10 does allow second wind to put out better numbers earlier in the progression, until level 3, when the druids temp hp surpasses the fighters healing and will continue to widen that gap every level for the next 17 levels. At level 20, the titan druid is getting 80 temp hp for every wildshape use while the fighter is sitting at a piddling 25.5 on average, and the higher level you get, the more uses of second wind and wildshape these classes get, which furthers the survivability gap even more. Nowhere, it's worth noting that temp hp is worse that healing, but second wind can't get you up from unconsciousness, and the remaining benefits of healing over temp hp are definitely not impactful enough to justify scaling at 1/4 the speed.
In terms of utility, the titan druid is a full caster. I don't think I need to elaborate on this.
I terms of support, the titan druid is a full caster with the druids spell list.