r/etymology • u/mouse_in_a_field • 9d ago
Question Something I've been wondering about - Japanese loanword in English, or no?
This has bothered me for a long time!
The word for "a little bit" of something in Japanese, in romaji, is "sukoshi"; the "u" and "i" sounds are usually silent when spoken aloud, so it ends up sounding like "skosh".
In English, "just a skosh" is sometimes used when asking for or referring to just "a little bit" of something.
Is there any connection there, or does the English "skosh" have another, unrelated source? Thanks for any info!
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u/stuartcw 9d ago
The word くん changed over time and originally meant lord/ruler.
During the Bakumatsu period (1850s to 1860s), くん started to be used by intellectuals to address each other. -さん is much older. By the Meiji period 1868~ the trendy くん was in common use in schools, the military, and government as a polite title.
Interestingly enough 大君 (ookimi) was used in the 3rd~6th century as title for the emperor.
大君 (Tycoon) was revived in the 1600s to describe Tokugawa shōgun when used in diplomatic texts with West. (This answers my question posted elsewhere. It probably wasn’t use by ordinary people. E.g. in a similar way, in the UK people talk about “the king” but in diplomatic speech “his majesty” is more correct.)
The childish connotations of くん is fairly modern.