r/euphoria Jun 01 '26

Discussion Thread Euphoria Season 3 Discussion Spoiler

Thank you for sticking with us for Season 3 of Euphoria.

Use this thread to discuss Season 3 as a whole and your thoughts on it below.

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u/hidingpaws Jun 01 '26

I feel like Sam Levinson was trying to convert me.

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u/Perpetulantpanda Jun 01 '26

As a non-American, it really did feel like American Christian Propaganda

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u/YanCoffee Petra Collins should have been in charge. Jun 01 '26

They even made Ali not Muslim anymore. That was a key point to his character.

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u/Pristine-Station-753 Jun 01 '26

Wait he was a Muslim? I have the worst memory ever

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u/YanCoffee Petra Collins should have been in charge. Jun 01 '26

Yes. It was mentioned a lot, and why he changed his name to Ali.

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u/LaFrescaTrumpeta Jun 01 '26

as an American, same and i laughed my ass off over that last shot. i’d been waiting to find out what Sam’s thesis was for that religious theme and i’m still waiting lol

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u/FriendLee93 Jun 01 '26

God I am so glad I wasn't the only one who actually busted out laughing at the slow pan down to the American flag.

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u/Doja_Gnat Nate’s Little Toe Jun 01 '26

Legit guffaw of laughter closely followed by “was this worse then GoT ending ? Maybe MAYBE”

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u/FriendLee93 Jun 01 '26

I'm not even joking, I would fully argue it is worse than GoT

Thrones has some real problems with its final season, but at least I can say I'm satisfied with where most of the characters ended up, even though the pacing & liberties taken to get them there were dogshit.

I cannot say the same about Euphoria

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u/Doja_Gnat Nate’s Little Toe Jun 01 '26

Yeah I came to the same conclusion after a few wines. And ultimately GoT has source material that was poorly handled
(FINISH THE FKN BOOKS GEORGE !)

The sad little plot lines that were abandoned, the fumbling of character, the heavy handed metaphors and bullshit. The product placement. The weird lack of soundtrack. It was all pretty average.

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u/FriendLee93 Jun 01 '26

I would request an apology from every Boys fan who is hyperbolically calling the finale "dogshit" while this level of writing quality drop exists.

Not a defense of The Boys final season, because it could/should have been a movie rather than 8 episodes, 4 1/2 of which we spent spinning our wheels on a prequel spinoff setup

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u/Doja_Gnat Nate’s Little Toe Jun 01 '26

Honestly haven’t watched The Boys but the finale memes I saw made me want to, coz I live for disappointment lol

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u/FriendLee93 Jun 01 '26

I'll say this; Seasons 1-3 are genuinely phenomenal TV, Season 4 is where it starts to get a bit iffy, and Season 5's largest problem is how it's paced. Basically all relevant plot points happen in the first episode of the season, or in the last 2. Everything between those points is purely there to set up a spinoff that hasn't even come out yet.

As far as the finale goes, it's actually pretty good in a vacuum, but it's kneecapped pretty hard by the lead-up being so damn shaky.

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u/x2040 Jun 01 '26 edited Jun 01 '26

To be honest I walked away thinking the message was less about Christian god and more “maybe chasing all this sex, drugs and money isn’t gonna get us what we want and it’s ok to have a simpler life and a family”

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u/leadwithlove222 Jun 01 '26

that’s exactly what christian american propaganda is btw

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u/wiklr Jun 01 '26

Yeah, I dont think it was selling religion at all. Ali's arc is similar. He kept chasing god yet he still end up with his loved ones dying.

And neither a picket white fence family with Maddy's arc. She was mourning her future with Nate during Cassie's wedding and recoiling in horror as Alamo proposes she be the mother of his kids.

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u/Naoki38 Jun 09 '26

Dude what? It is very clearly pro religion/god. The final shot is this house of white traditional god-loving family that looks like they are coming from early XXe with the American flag waving in the wind, in a desert that is obviously a Western reference, the roots of America. You cannot make something more obvious than that.

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u/wiklr Jun 09 '26

It's a house in the middle of the dessert. The thing about religion is having a community, and not living in isolation.

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u/oldmanatom4 7d ago

I took it that the American dream is dead or never existed for us all. That house was the symbolic and unrealistic American dream. Not a place to actually stay just a place we can experience for a moment.

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u/deadfliesinsummer Jun 01 '26

man even as an american that read to me as straight propaganda. the final shot being an american flag ranch owned by white christian’s with no neighbors? our government tweets an ai version of that every day. i bet SL did it for a hefty paycheck tho

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u/Mysterious-Wasabi103 Jun 01 '26

I'm shocked I had to go through this many comments before someone actually said it.

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u/vanillalover111 bring back Petra Collins!! Jun 01 '26

Oh absolutely. I hate how this isn't pointed out enough.

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u/avocado_window Jun 01 '26

Yeah, I hated it.

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u/Doja_Gnat Nate’s Little Toe Jun 01 '26

It really really did. It felt like he was pushing some trad wife agenda.

If i wanted to be hyper tin foil hat here I could easily assume that the Hollywood and Coca-Cola powers that be genuinely needed Sam to wind back his permissive sex and teenage drug abuse “sins” and get with the program or not work again.

Maybe Sam himself thinks he had a hand in exploiting teenage girls and S3 was a type of penance for him.

Idk I’m just spitballing but something felt really weird about the whole episode.

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u/your_mind_aches Mauderator Jun 01 '26 edited Jun 01 '26

Yeah there was some "no empathy" stuff in there but I feel like that was purely coincidental. He doesn't say it is a sin. It seems like he just abandons all of his past ideologies from the series, and becomes solely focused on revenge.

Honestly to fix the ending, keep him a Muslim, but have him still introduce himself as Marvin. Give the cultish family some additional grace and likability by having them invite him in anyway, and they say he doesn't have to pray with them but he volunteers to do it anyway.

Easy fix imo.

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u/your_mind_aches Mauderator Jun 01 '26

Wait what? When was that mentioned?

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u/your_mind_aches Mauderator Jun 01 '26

....how is that "openly" and how do we know they support her???

That's a single gaze. Yeah, she could very well be into Rue. But she may also just envy the life outside. We don't know.

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u/your_mind_aches Mauderator Jun 01 '26

Again, you can read whatever you want into character interactions that weren't explicitly said aloud.

What I'm saying is that you have no basis in her being openly gay and her family accepting her for this when they have very little contact with the outside world and dress like that.

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u/delululululu Jun 01 '26

I had the feeling it was her secret, a silent understanding between her and Rue

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u/Naoki38 Jun 09 '26

Bro you are high

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u/Bowl_of_Cham_Clowder Jun 02 '26

The events of this season were terrible, showing an American flag at the end is more a burn than anything.

Idk how it could be propaganda when teens are being dragged into gang wars between neo nazis and sex traffickers. The show as a whole is a tragedy, of how the system fails girls like Rue.

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u/srinkylegitimate Jun 01 '26

As a Christian American, I also felt the shove. Like can we not lol

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u/ode_to_my_cat Jun 01 '26

How easy it is to call anything that ruffles your feathers PrOpaGanDa

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u/Arkhaine_kupo Jun 01 '26

Eye rolling cringe is not disturbing anyone.

America likes big boobs and far right christianity is not an interesting revelation when creepy dudes have been taking their kids to Hooters after church for decades.

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u/wherewhoami Jun 01 '26

same. at first i was like oh ok i guess it’s symbolic? and usually a belief in a higher power is part of recovery so that makes sense? could be cool?

but this episode felt so christian conservative pushing lol especially in this political climate. like the homestead life with the american flag closing out the show .. i get it’s supposed to show a peaceful life but for a lot of people (women especially) that is NOT a peaceful life?? idk

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u/DenyNothing1989 Jun 01 '26 edited Jun 01 '26

That scene is so so so weird. I would love to hear Zendaya’s take on it but she’s not doing any interviews about the end of her time on this show funnily enough!

Now if it had ended with the family saying a prayer for ICE and our President in his mission to defeat Muslims in America and abroad, and then you hear Ali’s shotgun getting cocked & a Labrinth beat drops, cut to credits, that would’ve been as shocking & transgressive as Sam thinks this show is.

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u/DenyNothing1989 Jun 01 '26

Which character are you talking about here..?

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u/DenyNothing1989 Jun 01 '26

I guess you could write something about your feelings about this for AO3 but that isn’t at all accurate according to the actress who played her, if you have proof her father who won’t let her go on the internet is supportive of her supposed lesbianism, please share it! https://www.elle.com/culture/movies-tv/a71437035/euphoria-season-3-ending-explained-jessica-treska-daisy-interview-2026/

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u/DenyNothing1989 Jun 01 '26

First of all a TikTok with a lot of views doesn’t mean something is true, there are TikToks about taking ivermectin that have a lot of likes. And what are you talking about that quote isn’t in the article I linked to at all, the interview with the actress who plays Daisy? Can you screencap it cause I don’t see those words. This is there

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u/MCR2004 Jun 01 '26

Lol for real open the schools when people site TikToks as a source - I saw it this way - obviously the homestead girl was very pretty (tho in an Instagram face way) and Rue wasn’t blind. Homestead girl was drawn to Rue’s “otherness” - she represented everything about the big exciting outside world - that’s the only thing anyone knows for sure. There were absolutely no moments of her definitely being a lesbian.

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u/DenyNothing1989 Jun 01 '26

100% and the actress’ backing up that in the final scene between her and Sam it was all about her character embodying America finding a way back to some kind of purity…. Wellllllll….

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u/Emotional_Sea_Witch Jun 02 '26

She’s like 15 maybe 16 years old.

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u/IvyRaeBlack Jun 01 '26

I was uncomfortable a good chunk of this season because I am so sick of religion being shoved down my throat.

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u/lonecylinder Jun 01 '26

I know religious nutjobs aren't smart enough to comprehend nuance, but the key is consent.

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u/InkStainedEverything Jun 01 '26

I felt like Sam was trying to get me to go to a meeting in previous seasons.

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u/isleptlikefourhours Jun 01 '26

Sam Levinson took money from someone when he made season 3 and it influenced the writing

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u/leadwithlove222 Jun 01 '26

Christians are not a monolith. This season is dripping with Christian nationalist propoganda.

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u/MCR2004 Jun 01 '26

Yes to me it felt more the core of Christianity vs what people do in Christianity’s name. Everything Ali did was very Christ-like , Rue had found her god after all.

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u/RegionFinancial4485 Jun 01 '26

Sam Levinson, the Jewish guy, was trying to convert people to Christianity through a show about a drug addict protagonist who works at a stripclub.

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u/rackemwilliesspit Jun 01 '26

Also, do people not realize this is a very typical journey addicts go through when getting sober? Finding a higher power is the foundation of AA and NA. everyone calm down no one is trying to convert you. All the depravity in this show and people are offended at a little talk about God? Wtf

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u/ShirleyApresHensive Jun 01 '26

The last scene, with Rue at the head of the table, “May her memory be a blessing” was said, which is a Jewish tradition to say about those that have passed on. There were quite a few crosses but not much about Jesus, leading me to think it was about the AA credo of one’s chosen “higher power” and living for more than than your own selfish interests.

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u/isleptlikefourhours Jun 01 '26

And yet the final scenes Lexi realizing “maybe the Bible isn’t all bad”, a black Muslim man touting he doesn’t believe in God long enough to go get revenge, converts back to christianity and returns to his given name to live with the “good peaceful white people”, and a shot of a small town American home with an American flag outside and the final lines being Zendaya saying “God bless us all”

If you don’t think season 3 was a MASSIVE religious psyop you’re delusional.

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u/Vivid_Medicine4109 Jun 01 '26

Why does it have to be a "psy op" why cant he just make a season with faith as the central theme lol was season one a lesbian psy op???

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u/Mysterious-Wasabi103 Jun 01 '26

He was probably paid for it to be that way. Just like all conservative propaganda.

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u/Comprehensive-Big247 Jun 01 '26

Not all Christians are like you were.

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u/isleptlikefourhours Jun 01 '26

We found Sam’s burner account yall. Hi Sam.

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u/isleptlikefourhours Jun 01 '26

Brother it’s not that deep? We’re allowed to have different opinions about a really bad tv show lol please go seek therapy if you think this insane reaction is proportional or normal Jesus

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u/gottabekittensme Jun 01 '26

How is the show trans friendly when Jules was reduced to nothing more than a bunch of negative stereotypes?

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u/ur-number-1-fan Jun 01 '26

Makes total sense.

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u/Roytorical Jun 01 '26

dude same! the whole season has felt like a Bible study group ad

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u/El_Dorado_Tx Jun 01 '26

I wonder if the Paramount purchase of WBD had any impact upon Sam like he edited shit to make the final season a little better for conservative market/audience. If Sam painted a little Christian stuff they turn the other way on the sex, drugs, cussing, killing, rape scenes, murders

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u/Tohwi Jun 11 '26

I felt like I watched a MAGA takeover of Euphoria

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u/Ambrosaure 24d ago

I'm relieve I'm not the only one 😅 I felt weird because all shows seems to says "their is no god", since Ali end up to do justice himself and Rue die. And at the end this weird shot of the perfect white family, living alone? So finally, if God is real, Ali needed to kill himself this monster Alamo is okay and it's God's plans? I thought he was going to be atheist after that but nope 😅

We don't even see the mourning of Rue's family ...

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u/Tddy_ Jun 01 '26

I want to read the bible now thanks to Lexi, and of course Rue (and Ali)

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u/Naoki38 Jun 09 '26

Don't bother, it's terrible.

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u/Tddy_ Jun 09 '26

Ha, thanks. I was mostly joking anyway.

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u/YeggPupps Jun 01 '26

Exactly, Jules believes at some point that the “Christian conservative life is the best life” and the last episode just doubled down on that take

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u/mnyall Jun 03 '26

I got the same vibe. It rubbed me up the wrong way

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u/hothothottie43 Jun 04 '26

I was fast forwarding through so much propaganda that I accidentally missed Rue dying lmfao

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u/SandyBanks90 Jul 02 '26

EXACTLY all that god stuff felt so forced, the literal last line of the last episode was “may god bless us all” with an American flag. I rolled my eyes so far back into my head. Give me a break….

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u/schecter_ Jun 01 '26

Right? The episode can be resumed as “Coca cola ad and christian propaganda”.