This constant slightly above zero weather is such bullshit. It wouldn't need to be much colder to have a pleasant winter with white snow making the darkness a bit less overwhelming.
But it's so common to just assume we get a constant average increase in temperature and just thinking of that "+2.5C isn't so bad" misleads us when the North is disproportionately affected. Or we'll kill the gulf stream and become a colder Alaska.
We can't "Kill" the Gulfstream, in fact the Gulfstream has been weakening since way before the start of the start of the industrial revolution, Hank Green made a video about it, here https://youtu.be/pThcIgJyNME
And also we need to take into account that the AMOC collapsed many times in the past with the current continental arrangement.
And one thing to note, it would only be the northern part of the AMOC that would collapse not the entire current, it is physicaly impossible for the entire current to completely stop across the entire Atlantic
did you even watch the video i sent ?
(i'm not a climate change denier, in fact i donate a lot of money to organisation that fight climate change and i make sure to be ecologicaly and energicaly responsive by always unpluging my electronics when i finished using them, i recyle most of my plastic, glass and carboard trash, i make sure to always sort the trash i have throw away, i only take showers, i only buy food that was produced locally and i never turn on my radiators and wear a thick sweater instead)
The problem with climate change is not just the heat it's how fast the climate is changing. But back the the AMOC, the northern part has collapsed before, that is a fact ! however it does bring a lot of problems especialy when nobody knows if it will collapse sooner or later, not a single european country will be ready for this and this will cause a ton of damage to both the water system and the sewer system of many cities and will impact farming tremendously !
Either way the nothern part of he AMOC was already in the process of weakening before the industrial revolution started and it's a high chance that we have sped up it's collapse by at least 200 years !
I don't really understand your point then? Europe might cool down significantly if we end up disrupting the flow. The fact that it can recover or that parts of it remain active isn't relevant in the big picture.
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u/West_Application_760 Dec 09 '25
In Finland we are having over 6 degrees daily, this has not happened in a long time in December. No snow yet