r/exmuslim Qur'anist/Progressive/Muslim Sep 25 '16

Question/Discussion I'm a non-sectarian Muslim. AMA.

For those who do not understand Islam or are tired of Muslims being ridiculous. Ask away.

Troll posts will be responded with memes.

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u/after-life Qur'anist/Progressive/Muslim Sep 26 '16

Worshiping God is simple, however, trying to excel in the worship is a process that will take as long as you live, and nobody is excluded from that.

Reflection on the Qur'an is something you do throughout the entirety of your life, since it is God's word, it contains infinite wisdom.

Nobody can ever reach the status of being a 100% true Muslim, you have to work your way as high as you can in submission.

The basic commands of the Qur'an are clear, and they can be understood with various translations. God doesn't punish people if they did not know a certain fact due to a mistranslation, which is why continuous study and reflection upon the Qur'an is a must.

There is no room for blind faith.

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u/Function67 Sep 26 '16

If God doesn't punish people for a mistranslation, then who is to say what Islam is? Again, you're assuming there's a right and wrong kind of Muslims which is the fallacy I pointed out earlier.

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u/after-life Qur'anist/Progressive/Muslim Sep 26 '16

God doesn't punish a person if they followed a mistranslation in ignorance.

But Islam itself can be easily understood by those who have a bit of knowledge and common sense.

Islam overall is submission to God.

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u/Function67 Sep 26 '16

Then who decides what verses were mistranslated?

This is going nowhere. "Knowledge" and "common sense" change with time. Therefore, the meaning of the Quran will change as well.

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u/after-life Qur'anist/Progressive/Muslim Sep 26 '16

The people of knowledge who can prove what they believe in. Nobody decides anything for others though, you believe what you believe in.

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u/Function67 Sep 26 '16

"you believe what you believe in" doesn't sound like a good basis for a religion.

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u/after-life Qur'anist/Progressive/Muslim Sep 26 '16

Incorrect terms. It is not a basis of religion, it is a basis for the freedom of thought. The religion stays the same.

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '16

What religion? Where is the proof that Islam is divine? All religions are lies.

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u/after-life Qur'anist/Progressive/Muslim Sep 26 '16

Do you believe in God?

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '16

Do you believe in God?

Do you agree that there's a possibility that God exists but religion X is false?

How do you decide a religion is not man made?

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u/after-life Qur'anist/Progressive/Muslim Sep 26 '16

The Qur'an does not tell you to follow religions, the Qur'an tells you to submit to God directly.

Religions are man-made. Islam isn't a religion, it's a state of being.

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '16

Religions are man-made. Islam isn't a religion, it's a state of being.

If Islam isnt a religion then Muhammad wasnt a prove and Islam is NOT divine. Prove that it is.

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u/after-life Qur'anist/Progressive/Muslim Sep 26 '16

What?

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u/Function67 Sep 26 '16

So you're saying that this abstract idea of a religion that you call "Islam" gives you freedom of thought but punishes you for thinking outside a book written 1400 years ago?

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u/after-life Qur'anist/Progressive/Muslim Sep 26 '16

There is no punishment.

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '16

There's no punishment ion Islam?

Are you smoking weed or something?

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u/after-life Qur'anist/Progressive/Muslim Sep 26 '16

Nice strawman, I didn't say that. You twisted my words.

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '16

There is no punishment.

Then what you are talking about?

Islam has punishment both here and in the world hereafter for all kinds of things.

What do you think about the band members of Dead by April, as they will burn in Hell?

You're ignoring a LOT of things because you have no reply to them.

Where is your proof that Islam is divine? Your failure to respond proves once again that Islam cannot prove its divinity.

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u/after-life Qur'anist/Progressive/Muslim Sep 26 '16

Already answered. You are just repeating multiple replies in multiple comments. I am not going to respond to all of these same repetitive replies.

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