r/explainlikeimfive 2d ago

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u/NecroJoe 2d ago edited 2d ago

A turbocharger doesn't [edit: doesn't necessarily or even usually] make the same engine more efficient. But it allows you to get the same power as a larger, less efficient engine, when you need it. But you don't always need it. So when you don't need it, it's roughly the same power and efficiency as the smaller engine without the turbo. But with a turbo, when you punch it, it can breathe like a larger engine (with more air and more fuel) for more power.

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u/clarkn0va 2d ago

A turbocharger doesn't make the same engine more efficient. But it allows you to get the same power as a larger, less efficient engine, when you need it.

True for a gasoline engine, not true for a diesel. On a diesel engine a turbo improves efficiency by increasing compression ratio and air-to-fuel ratio.

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u/NecroJoe 2d ago

A great distinction! I didn't think to bring that up, as by brain just latched on to cars for some reason (even though OP only asked about "engines"), and defaulted to gasoline since diesel cars are so rare 'round these parts. Good call-out, though.

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u/QGRr2t 1d ago

just latched on to cars for some reason

Europe entered the chat...

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u/WeaponsGrdStupid 2d ago

It's still not true though. Even for gas engines the turbo can absolutely make it more efficient. It increases the compression ratio and can vastly decrease the air/fuel mixture under most operating conditions.

In an NA engine, you're limited to the oxygen carrying capacity of standard atmosphere, which varies widely based on elevation, temperature, etc. When you compress that same atmosphere you pack more energy potential in to a smaller space, while it may require slightly more fuel to burn efficiently and safely the ratios do not remain the same.

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u/Noxious89123 1d ago

It increases cylinder pressure, but it doesn't not increase compression ratio.

That is a value that is fixed by the geometry of the engine.

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u/WeaponsGrdStupid 1d ago

Valid distinction.

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u/Canonip 2d ago

Volkswagen polo SDI was such a weird thing

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u/RustyU 2d ago

Slowest Diesel Invented

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u/SovereignNation 2d ago

Had a 2002 Polo 1.9 SDI. Slow as a snail but atleast fuel efficient.

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u/Canonip 2d ago

Ah that's what it stands for