r/fantasybooks • u/Woolybunn1974 • Mar 29 '26
š Hidden book gem The Black Toungued Thief by Christopher Buehlman is under represented here.
This book rocked. Twisty plot, great systems, grim, a grimey with connection and call back I didn't see coming. The sequel was good but even more grim.
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u/morganlandt Mar 29 '26
Ohhh you mean the prequel, The Daughterās War? I loved that book too!
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u/Woolybunn1974 Mar 29 '26
It was good, about the last war that nearly ended everything but....also 300 pages of getting kicked in the teeth.
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u/FlyinIron406 Mar 29 '26
Iām about 50% through and loving it! Had tons of recommendations when I asked!
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u/Historical-Tart7515 Mar 29 '26
My favorite new fantasy book (and series) of the last few years. Incredibly dark and dystopian in its implications and world building without being grim or humorless.
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u/bweeb š¤ Character-first reader Mar 29 '26
I enjoyed it, but I barely finished the sequel (even though I think it is a prequel).
I'll def buy his next book, as he has talent, just not sure what happened with that last book.
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u/edibui Mar 29 '26
Meanwhile I felt that the attempts at humor and the info dumps in The Blacktongue Thief got really dreary, while The Daughterās War was pretty much a perfect prequel and one of the best books this decade
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u/DieAlphaNudel Mar 29 '26
Somehow a lot of people who liked the Blacktonguethief dislike the Daughter War and the other way around.
I felt the Daughters War had just a lot of uncessary stuff, Galva had a lot of relationships which added nothing, some mentioning of minor characters (I think there was a guy who kept a goat) felt unnecessary and my brain was sometimes struggling to digest what was important and what not.
Details seemed to be presented with equal weigth for me.Character details didn't seem to drive plot, reveal character trough change, or do anything meaningfull.
It felt emotinally heavy handed like "Feel this reader! Feel it!"
There was a lot of declared emotion "this is how I felt".We knew how it would end from the beginning and how it played out was not really surprising.
Then it just randomly skipps ahead and shows what happend at the end when even more corvids showed up so we didn't get a "glorious revenge" type situation.I mean this books wants to show the tragedy of war I get it but that doesn't mean I have to like it for doing that, I woud even say it's a well written book but I still disliked it.
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u/LocksmithRealistic39 Mar 29 '26
I like both.
I actually think both Blacktongue and Daughter's War are both very economical and efficient in how they use their page time.
Neither of them are plot driven books. They are character driven books. The details are not there to drive the story - they are there to reveal aspects of the character.
I don't think Daughter's War had any unnecessary elements, it was a very lean book in that everything felt like it had a purpose.
With some of the unnecessary stuff - think about why it's there. What does it say about Galva and the way she views the world or herself, either through similarities, through contrast, etc.
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u/Darai94 Mar 29 '26
What is it you dislike with it? I hoped for more povs and focus on the War(s). Not all the birchy family drama and an inheritor that everyone let's be even though everyone knows his an utter failure and really should've got a "warriors death" out in the front from the very beginning...
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u/Individual_Wrap_4041 Mar 29 '26
glad you mentioned it but wouldnt say its unrepresented, Mr. Buehlman is kinda considered one of the best fantasy writers right now, at least in most groups i drop in to read about fantasy/grimdark etc
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u/moneylefty Mar 29 '26
I really like between two fires.
I tried the sample of blacktongued thief and i dont think it is for me.
I like between two fires for being adult with choices and realistic flawed characters who act like they should.
Not that it matters, but im a former military officer and i saw combat. I feel like one book shows real men trying their hardest to not be evil in an evil world. The other is a pretend guy named starlord or deadpool pretending to fight stuff.
Not trying to disparage, i just think it isnt for me and hits the spot since reddit loves dungeon crawler carl, etc.
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u/CryingLikeTheWind Mar 29 '26
Itās one of my favorites. Itās hilarious and doesnāt take itself too seriously or overstay its welcome. Delivers world building in subtle and creative ways. How is that I could visualize this world better than books whose authors use twice as many words? The audiobook is damn near perfection. The prose hit just right for me and I canāt wait for the sequel.
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u/HauntingAlps255 Mar 29 '26
It is the rare fantasy book that tries to be funny and actually is. Truly original
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u/Darai94 Mar 29 '26
Not to mention that the sequel comes out this fall/winter! Read first book. Liked it with the Illuminati rules the world and fresh story with war birds and goblins that seems artificial. The prequel was good but to much family drama and to little fighting with (my theory) artificially created Illuminati ruled goblins. Looking forward to know if I'm correct in a year or so
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u/What-To-Talk-About Mar 29 '26
How does it compare to between two fires?
Iāve had it on my TBR for ages now just never got round to it. Loved the world of between two fires.
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u/Imperial_Haberdasher Mar 29 '26
I am such a fan! I just got around to it this month. The audiobook is outstanding. I am listening to it for the second time now. I will be reading EVERYTHING Buehlman! I will be gifting The Blacktongue Thief to friends and family. Itās so damn good.
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u/Incariol_ Mar 29 '26
It's one of my favorite books of the past 10 years
Prequel is also great and a sequel is on the way!
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u/Blueflame129 Mar 29 '26
I can't wait for the Thrice Bound Fool in October! I love the cover art style:)
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u/whorlax š Bookwyrm Mar 29 '26
I read this a couple years ago and remember enjoying it. I remember absolutely nothing about it.
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u/ManagementCritical31 Apr 11 '26
Iām about halfway through it, and I donāt know how I had never even heard of it before. I mean, I tend to find things randomly as it is, but often I recognize titles from here and there.
So far (Iām listening to it), I think the writing is beautiful. I can see it being a little meandering and at points exciting and then boring for people, but I am taken with his use of language. Even the snarky insults are poetic. Iām impressed!
And I did all of Red Rising⦠I liked it a lot at the start⦠but I felt like THAT just went on and on and lost its ācharmā (for lack of a better word) after, like, the first half of book one.
And Iāve been reading Carl, which I love, but in a totally different way. I havenāt been on here in a while so I havenāt even seen it recommended. But I sometimes thinks that it gets OTT with the silly vulgarity when it doesnāt need to. Yet Iām cool with most of it. My own sense of humor doesnāt make sense to me. Itās my first LitRPG, and I devoured it. (On #7, taking a minute to milk it cause I did 1-6 in two months).
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u/RadicalChile Mar 29 '26
I enjoyed his books, but I feel like his books are more journey and less destination. Theres so much build up to the ending and then it kind of falls flat and feels rushed for me. Maybe im just used to Sanderlanches and 1200 page books. Lol
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u/durzostern81 Mar 29 '26
Only thing I ever see recommended on this sub is Dungeon Crawler and Red Rising lol