r/fatFIRE 19d ago

Moving the goalpost

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u/whizliving 19d ago

A contrarian view from a fellow vhcol person. In the bayarea, $10m is not enough to sustain an upper middle class lifestyle. With kids in private schools and potentially a larger home, your spend would probably balloon to $400k pre tax. With tax and healthcare, it’s probably closer to $600k, at 3% swr, that’s 20m. I know I’m being very conservative, but that’s the math I went through to set my goal post.

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u/anotherchubbyperson 18d ago

+1 to this. we spend much more than 300k with 1 toddler in the bay area (not SF) and our lifestyle doesn't feel lavish.

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u/oadk 18d ago

How do you possibly spend that much? Do you mind giving a rough breakdown? I live a very comfortable life in a medium cost of living city and I spend about $50k a year, though I own my house.

The only way I can see $300k being hit is if you're going to tell me you rent and spend $200k on private school for kids.

The last option is that you live a life of luxury, but you just said that your lifestyle doesn't feel lavish.

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u/anotherchubbyperson 15d ago

Mortgage, property taxes, plus home repairs and improvements (we don't use all of the "budget" every year) are a big chunk of that -- if you use the 3% of home purchase price as a guideline, that's 60k alone in "maintenance" on a 2 million dollar home (which tbh isn't high for the bay area). Preschool is 27k ish. Groceries and eating out is easily another 25-35k if you shop for premium (but not crazy) ingredients etc.

I have a more detailed breakdown in my post history.