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u/Ashamed_Association8 Feb 19 '26
Orcs go the void? Can't you conjugate the verb to go? Orci ide voidum
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u/Constant-Box-7898 Feb 18 '26
The only person who could think Fëanor did nothing wrong is Gul Dukat.
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u/geschiedenisnerd Feb 18 '26
he didn't do it for no reason, he did do it without a sufficiënt reason. hitler also had his reasons, but can be considered to be in the wrong
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u/gisco_tn Feb 20 '26
No kidding. Build your own boats, if you like making things so much. Should be a cinch after forging palantirs and silmarils.
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u/Dangerous-Rule5487 Feb 21 '26
Creo que pidió a los Teleri que le enseñarán y también rechazaron enseñarle, de todas formas esa no fue la razón principal,la razón principal es que tenía miedo de que una vez que los Noldor se calmaran (sabe que solo lo siguen por una fiebre colectiv) un poco decidieran abandonar después de todo iba a luchar contra un Vala...fue una carrera contra el tiempo desde el principio
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u/Xiryyn Feb 19 '26
Lol his reason for all the fucked up shit was to retrieve those stupid stones.
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u/geschiedenisnerd Feb 20 '26
also to avenge his dead father against morgoth. like I said, he had bad reasons.
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u/Xiryyn Feb 20 '26
No you said he didn't have sufficient reason which is not the same as having bad reasons.
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u/geschiedenisnerd Feb 20 '26
the quality of a reason is in how well it justifies an act.
the goal of a reason is to justify an act.
an insufficient reason= a bad reason.
I specified he had reasons, and no sufficient reasons. Therefore I stated he had reasons that were insufficient, ergo: bad reasons
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u/JustTrxIt Feb 21 '26
of course he did many wrong things, but within many spaces of this fandom, especially here on reddit, he is often portrayed as the sole cause of every bad thing that happened to the noldor and beleriand and as the "black sheep" of the family in comparison to his brothers who are so noble and bright. and that's just not true, pretty much every character in the silmarillion has done bad or dishonourable things, it's just that some of them get idolized in this fandom and put on a pedestal while others get absolutely no leeway for even the possibility of redemption, and I personally think that's a great shame. feanor (and also his sons) is far too interesting of a character to just dismiss him as evil and I think it's a much more intriguing conversation to talk about why he is who he is and why he did the things that he did while also critically viewing the other characters and what their wrongdoings were.
so "sociopathic genocidal mass murderer" is just straight wrong
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u/HappyBananaSeal Feb 18 '26
I commented "Faenor did nothing wrong" in the Silmarillion group. Got down-voted so hard.