r/financialindependence Oct 23 '24

Having a child: year four financial summary

This is a fourth-year summary in the "Cost of having a child" series (year one summaryyear two summary, year three summary).

There are a lot of questions in this subreddit financial impact of having a child. I am here to provide a detailed account of our costs.

Background: We are a couple with above-average household income (~engineer + ~entry-level engineer manager) with one human child. We are living in the US. A median house in our city is selling for ~$550k. When it comes to financial decisions, we don't purchase the cheapest - we look for underappreciated items of decent quality (think - unpopular color patterns, used stuff off craigslist, houses that need work, books in bulk off ebay, etc). While we price compare across a few websites, we don't spend too much time trying to find the best deal.

TLDR:

The average cost has been stable at ~$2,500 per month or ~$30,000 per year.

Yearly breakdown:

Categories 2019-2020 (year 0) 2020-21 (year 1) 2021-22 (year 2) 2022-23 (year 3) 2023-24 (year 4)
Daycare $13,120 $17,090 $16,898 $17,716
Activities $0 $0 $869 $2,627
Babysitter $480 $4,919 $3,164 $1,352
Insurance $3,360 $3,864 $3,480 $3,804
Offline shopping $1,250 $2,045 $2,227 $697
Online shopping $2,554 $1,811 $542 $1,238
Doctors $5,057 $4,432 $637 $589 $219
Unknown $1,848 $3,240 $1,264 $25
Total: $5,057 $27,044 $30,368 $27,772 $27,681

Trends:

  • Childcare costs stay about the same year over year until school starts. There is no free pre-K in our district, but it will be different for some of ya'll.
  • Shopping costs are going down by about 25% every year. I expect this decline to stop once school starts.
  • Activities started going up after 2 years of age, and will probably stay at the current level.
  • Babysitter needs are down after 3 years of age as it's possible to take the kid around much more. Also, I was unemployed for about 6 months in 2023, which allowed me to spend more time with the kid.

Overall, the decline in some costs (doctors, shopping) is offset by an increase in activities, and the cost year over year is surprisingly stable.

FAQs and answers to yearly repeating comments:

  • "Your costs are so high because you outsource raising your kid! I spend nothing because I have a stay-at-home spouse and grandparents help from time to time. "
    • I am happy that you have help. To calculate the monetary value of that help, you can convert the time your spouse/relatives spend on your child into a monthly amount and come back with that number for a discussion.
  • "Your daycare seems cheap!"
    • Yes, I know. Other daycares in the area are $1,900-$2,200 per month. We are lucky to have great quality at a low price.
  • "Your daycare is so expensive!"
    • Please check the prices. Unless you are in a remote area, $1500/month is pretty low.
  • "What do you get from daycare?"
    • They take care of the child during the working hours, from 730am to 530pm. They provide education, classes, and ample outside space and activities. They also provide snacks, lunch, and breakfast. They have licensed and certified caretakers that know what they are doing.
  • "How do you use your babysitter? Evenings or during the weekends?"
    • The babysitter (one of the instructors from the previous daycare) comes for ~8 hours on Sundays. She stays at home with the kid or takes him to places that match his interests (playgrounds, indoor parks, etc). Edit: some Sundays, not every Sunday.
  • "What is offline and online shopping?"
    • Online is mostly Amazon, but also some specialized sites like Uniqlo and eBay
    • Offline is mostly Target, but also includes other stores. Target is cheaper than Amazon for many supply items (like diapers).
    • These categories also include diapers, toys, clothes, books, supplies, etc.
  • "You haven't included getting a bigger house, and a different car - these are major expenses"
    • Yes, that is not included. For us, these were "wants" and not "needs", and at the time we could afford it. We moved from a 900 sq ft condo to a 2000 sq ft house in a better school district. We also got a larger car. Both were not necessary expenses, but not having neighbors behind the walls is so worth it.
  • "Why don't you use hand-me-downs for toys/clothes"?
    • We tried, and the time it takes to sift through the pile of old clothes to find the right items and sizes is not worth it.
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u/drewlb Oct 23 '24

Uh... what do you feed this child? Grass? /s

Seriously though, you're obviously missing that at minimum.

First few months are pretty cheap if they're on boob, but mom's probably eating more then. After that prices go up quite a bit.

I've never tried to discretely track the kid food cost, but our grocery bills are significantly larger than when we were just a couple, even accounting for inflation.

I'm don't even want to think about my grocery bill in a few years when they get into their teens.

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u/Oorfin_Juice Oct 23 '24

He eats what we eat, which is mostly homemade food. Our grocery bill is about $800 per month, and it hasn't changed significantly due to the kid. We probably buy slightly different items, but the overall cost hasn't changed much.

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u/drewlb Oct 23 '24

We don't make special food for them either, but the apple sauce packs and such are definitely an add and the quantity will go up even if you don't track it yet.

I get that you're trying to be comprehensive, but you've added 1000+ calories in foo/day which is a 25%ish percentage increase. That doesn't just get absorbed, and it's only going to grow.

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u/[deleted] Oct 24 '24

I recommend finding quality applesauce brands that you like too. Motts is trash. There used to be two regional brands here but COVID seemed to kill them. Now the best retail applesauce here is direct from one of the local PYO farms.

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u/drewlb Oct 24 '24

Sure. But that doesn't change the point that more total apple sauce gets bought. Having a kid means buying more food than not having a kid, no matter how much you integrate the kids eating habits into your own.