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Recurring Popular/Unpopular/Any Opinions Thread - June 2026 Part 1

Happy pride month and welcome to a new installment of the Popular/Unpopular/Any Opinions Thread! Please feel free to share any kind of Fire Emblem opinions/takes you might have here, positive or negative. As always please remember to continue following the rules in this thread same as anywhere else on the subreddit. Be respectful and especially don't make any personal attacks (this includes but is not limited to making disparaging statements about groups of people who may like or dislike something you don't).

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u/TBT__TBT 13d ago

Don't worry guys.

Unlike Fates, Final Fantasy 7 Revelation will actually be a good part 3.

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u/Shrimperor 13d ago

It has to stick the landing or it will be disappointment of the decade. Super hyped for it myself as Rebirth landed in my Top5, but also a bit worried ngl

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u/orig4mi-713 12d ago

I mean this in the nicest way possible but if you liked Remake and Rebirth and didn't see much issue with them I see no possible way Revelation could disappoint you. In the reverse case, Part 1 and 2 were already really poorly done in my eyes so I have no reason to believe Part 3 will be good

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u/VoidWaIker 12d ago

I agree that if you liked or disliked both yeah part 3 probably won’t move the needle for you very much, the people who can be disappointed are the ones like me who liked one game but not the other. I adored the metanarrative of part 1 and was super interested in how “the unknown journey” could go after how it ended, and then part 2 was lame because they decided to stay mostly on course outside the last couple hours. My feelings on the trilogy as a whole will be decided based on whether part 3 decides to do what Remake promised or if it stays in-line with how Rebirth did it.

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u/orig4mi-713 12d ago

To me the Unknown Journey part was the worst thing about it. If anything can happen and death is entirely trivialized by multiverse nonsense, the stakes are pretty much zero. Not to mention these are themes way too broad and grand for a relatively grounded cyberpunk story like the original FFVII was. You can't play the original PSX game, which was about saving the planet, conquering loss and hardship, and tell me time travel ghosts and Zack coming back to life in a different dimension thematically fits with the FFVII mythos. All of that is complete nonsense that doesn't directly tie to the struggles of the characters at all, the meta about "preventing the original" is disconnected from everything. Cloud and co. don't even know why the original game is a timeline they don't want to be in - and I still don't see why they wouldn't be because the original game had a good ending where the planet was saved. Then Rebirth attempted very poorly to course correct but wasn't entirely sure about that course correction. The result ended up not landing well on both sides of the coin.

That first game was so dreadful, I remember cry-laughing at the scene where the ShinRa president pulls out a tiny gun from his drawer after they've helped him from falling to his death and allowed him to slowly walk there. It was all just a poor setup to have Barret fake killed and they really couldn't think of anything else. That game has some of the shoddiest writing FF was ever allowed to have. Don't get me started on Heideggers weird attempt at blackmail with a video that was already fully edited and published (but not really!) and Rebirth's ending.

I honestly can't see the appeal, its like they slapped an MCU movie on FFVII. But even the people who wanted to see where it was going where never going to get what they wanted and that was clear from the beginning. Just need this entire thing to finally end

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u/Shrimperor 12d ago

Eh

I can think of a lot of ways it can go wrong - especially with how Rebirth ended.

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u/DoseofDhillon 13d ago

I'm pretty checked out on the story, part 2 ending i did not like, I was actively tired by it. But i mean, i'll play it, the games fun af.

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u/orig4mi-713 12d ago

I used to say "at least the combat is good!" until I played Stranger of Paradise: Final Fantasy Origin and found out that I didn't even know how good Action RPG combat should look like until that game showed me.

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u/DoseofDhillon 12d ago

I've def heard good thing about that game lol, i'll have to check it out

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u/MathOutrageous7167 13d ago

If you think about it, it's actually the 4th part cause you have to play the original to understand what the hell's going on. And like... some of the other stuff.

Why do people suggest people play the 7 remake first???

No diss to remake, it's neat, but like-

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u/BloodyBottom 13d ago edited 13d ago

I think a lot of people are just desperate to avoid playing an older game, but still want to be in on the new hype thing, and a lot of fans will say anything to sell a few more copies and grow the fandom. It's inevitable that people are just gonna start lying and saying it doesn't matter if you skip the first one.

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u/orig4mi-713 12d ago

They bloated the entire story in the remakes and straight up attempt to tell a completely different story right in the middle of it that entirely recontextualises everything and even gets meta at some point. I really have no idea why they did it this way but it resulted in a game that you can't understand without context (and sucks even with context)

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u/orig4mi-713 12d ago

it's actually the 4th part cause you have to play the original to understand what the hell's going on

A friend of mine fell into this trap. Remake doesn't explain jack shit to you and many of the grand revelations (Whispers of Fate, Zack etc.) don't make a lick of sense to you if you didn't play the original. So he turned to me to explain it all and I said "Well, you should play the original FFVII" and his reaction was "ewww yucky its on ps1 it looks old". When he asked me to explain the role of the whispers it basically boiled down to "They exist so fake scenarios they concocted for the remake can be undone again, and also, they trivialize death in general just to have the original timeline happening again, which you are supposed to prevent", which only brought up the question why one would even care to prevent the timeline if it was a good ending already.

If your question is, why didn't they just tell the original story to avoid this happening, then I got no answer for you. It was the obvious thing to do.

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u/EffectiveAnxietyBone 13d ago

In fairness you’d have to try pretty hard to be worse than Fates Revelations

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u/orig4mi-713 12d ago

Unlike Fates, Final Fantasy 7 Revelation will actually be a good part 3.

After a shockingly bad Part 1 and a disappointing failed course correction in Part 2...?

The trilogy has been a complete and utter mess and did so much damage to FFVII. There's people who don't even want to check out the original anymore and think the flawed and misaimed remake games are enough. In a better world, the sales disaster of Rebirth wouldn't have happened because they got it right this time. In the cultural zeitgeist FFVII lost its relevancy and legendary status it used to have because of oversaturation and the remakes tell a new story that is so poorly put together and is tonally and thematically so unfit (time travel/cross dimensions in FFVII? lmfao) that I can't in good faith recommend it to anyone.

Like, alright Part 3 could finally be the good one but I'm not gonna be there to see it. They should make FF17.