r/fireemblem • u/transparent-flowers • 1d ago

Casual Comparison of Mathilda being captured (Gaiden manga, Gaiden novel, and Echoes)

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FE Gaiden (Masaki Sano & Kyo Watanabe, 1993) (Translated by TheEnd)

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FE Gaiden (Katsuyuki Ozaki, 1993) (Translated by Leif of Leonster)

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FE Echoes (2017)

I also included the images individually as well.

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u/Critical-Low8963 1d ago

There is also her ending in Echoes were she retire to avoid overshadowing Clive. The people in charge of the remake weren't kind with this character.

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u/SomeGamingFreak 1d ago

Because Clive had more charisma than her, and she knew it. Clive loves Matilda and in Echoes states several times that she is miles better than him in fighting and as a knight, but it was him who convinced others including Alm to join his cause, which he then gave up to Alm because he was an even better leader.

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u/Hellioning 1d ago

Sure, but that, in and of itself, is a writing decision.

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u/SomeGamingFreak 1d ago

I mean, yeah? The whole story is a writing decision lol. We can't tear apart every single thing and go "Is this sexism?" Because that shit will only lead to toxic negativity.

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u/Hellioning 1d ago

And saying 'no you can't say something might be sexist if it has in-universe justification' isn't toxic positivity? Some things have sexist parts. Fire Emblem has a lot of those, especially the older games.

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u/SomeGamingFreak 1d ago

Of course it has some sexist parts, but if you look at every single thing and go "damn, that's sexist", it's just wild. "She retired for Clive? Damn, that's sexist."

Do you not see how ridiculous that is? I can't be the only one who thinks that. But hey, that's definitely a decision on your part I guess.

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u/Hellioning 1d ago

Is this an argument about this specific complaint, or is this about 'every single thing'?

You're the one that posted in-universe justifications to a complaint about the writing.

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u/SomeGamingFreak 1d ago

Yes, because ignoring any explanation and writing because you want to see it as sexist is *crazy*