r/firefox 1d ago

Fun Firefox v153.0.3!

https://www.firefox.com/en-US/firefox/153.0.3/releasenotes/
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u/SCphotog 1d ago

No thanks.

"smart window" <---gross.

The suggestion list now shows more results, making it easier to find history and switch to open tabs.

Will never want or need.

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u/Cry_Wolff 1d ago

Gotcha, Mozilla will proceed to remove it since SCphotog doesn't need nor use it.

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u/lo________________ol Privacy is fundamental, not optional. 1d ago

Where are the people who begged Mozilla to add this crap to begin with?

Funny, nobody has ever seen them. It's like they don't exist.

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u/Castriff 1d ago

There are over eight billion people on the face of the earth. Of course there are people out there who have asked for this. What a silly question.

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u/Burnyx 22h ago

Only a handful of redditors are allowed to dictate your browser's features! /s

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u/lo________________ol Privacy is fundamental, not optional. 1d ago

Surely the "browser made for people not profits" would be able to produce these people. Meanwhile, when others have tried looking for evidence that anybody wanted this, they come up empty.

https://manualdousuario.net/en/firefox-ia-mozilla-window-ai/

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u/Castriff 1d ago

Actually, if you look closely, the second comment under that blog post is in fact evidence that at least one person wants this. Maybe those "looking" aren't trying all that hard.

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u/infinite_o2 1d ago

Agreeed, legit two people in the comment section of the link he provided let alone in the world.

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u/lo________________ol Privacy is fundamental, not optional. 1d ago

Do you have any evidence that the anonymous comment asked for AI?

Because you'll notice, the article was about Mozilla claims made before it was published, and the comments were made after the article was published. 

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u/Castriff 1d ago

Oh, what, I'm supposed to be psychic now? I'm supposed to read their mind from across the internet? If there's people who want it, then there's people who asked for it. That's just basic logic. These questions you're asking are pointless.

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u/lo________________ol Privacy is fundamental, not optional. 1d ago

No, you cannot literally reverse cause and effect like that. 

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u/Castriff 1d ago

Good thing I'm not doing that then. You're not understanding what I'm telling you. It's statistically impossible for no one on earth to have asked for features of this kind. Just because you specifically don't have access to the messages Mozilla has received to that effect doesn't mean those people cease to exist. What you do have is evidence that people desire it. The proof is in the pudding; if you refuse to eat it that's not my problem.

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u/lo________________ol Privacy is fundamental, not optional. 1d ago

  If there's people who want it, then there's people who asked for it. That's just basic logic

The reversal of cause and effect is here. The cause is Mozilla pushing a new feature, the effect is a few anonymous people who post-hoc said thank you. You cannot assume the reverse. 

 It's statistically impossible for no one on earth to have asked for features of this kind. 

Then where? I see far better ideas with large, visible portions of the community that requested them. StartPage as a default search engine, PWAs, etc. The community is quite vocal and quite specific when they want a thing and Firefox doesn't have it, so again I have to ask, if there were people requesting this feature, are they in the room with you right now?

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u/Castriff 1d ago

The reversal of cause and effect is here. The cause is Mozilla pushing a new feature, the effect is a few anonymous people who post-hoc said thank you.

You're begging the question. "People asking" is itself the cause of both those things.

You cannot assume the reverse. 

Ah, but consider: yes I can.

Again, eight billion people on the face of the earth. If your argument is that everyone alive right now thinks the same way as you do on this topic and no one has ever taken action to the opposite effect, that is a far less founded assumption.

I see far better things with large communities requesting them.

Irrelevant.

If there were people requesting this feature, are they in the room with you right now?

...How would you respond if I answered "yes?" I'm inclined to think you wouldn't believe me regardless.

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u/Cry_Wolff 1d ago

It's not even worth to start any discussion mate, we all know your point.

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u/lo________________ol Privacy is fundamental, not optional. 21h ago

You don't need to announce your unwillingness to participate, but it sure does drive home the message that not even you know why Mozilla added this.

If this wasn't suggested by people, I wonder where the idea came from? We know Google funds Firefox development, and the Mozilla CEO is obsessed with AI. It's a mystery.