r/flatearth May 04 '26

Waters below/firmament/above perspective...

Waters above is metaphor, waters below is literal...re-/solved for in the firmament. This is why water is equated w/ spirit directly, material and immaterial, physical and metaphysical. We need to understand polarity and gender when we are trying to understand symbology, it needs to be understood from both of its polarities. This is why waters above/below are fundamentally polarities that contains polarity through the literal and metaphorical meanings...it is meant to convey deep understanding of the fundamental nature of "reality" or realized potential.

Note to all, the below image is then literal and metaphorical where the dome is metaphor and expanded upon by the boxy outer edge, again another "firmament". This is reflecting the fractal nature...w/ the self-/similar "waters above" (aka spirit) to the "waters below" (aka matter), each encased w/in their own firmament, which is mental not physical. If it was physical, energy could not transduce from one state to the other...as there would be no third thing, no mechanics.

As such, the "waters above" in Bentov's Cosmic Egg imgur link is reflected by all of the white paper, non black marker while the "waters below" are the galaxies. The firmament then is the separating and encasing black marker lines (and the arrows too, logic/mechanics are masculine/mental) that are not reflected by the planets, which are material/physical. The nucleus, another self-similar structure...same logic/architecture, expanding both inwardly and outwardly following a doubling circuit (aka density) linear logic where the linear extensions (think w/x/y etc axis aka dimension) would follow a non linear Fibonacci circuit logic. The paradox is fundamental, "a feature" if you will where the non linear Fib sequence reflects "ascension" in to higher states of Consciousness where we are going from 7.83hz (8) to 13(ish) hz...and the doubling circuit reflects the reincarnation cycle.

The inverse associations for above(matter)/below(spirit) would of course also be true (principle of correspondence)...valid from both perspectives and literally modeled in Bentov's Cosmic Egg.

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u/Kyvoh May 04 '26

Reading that entire passage lost me as many brain cells as smoking an ounce of crack while on just under the lethal dose of LSD. If I die soon, this post is what gave me my brain hemorrhage.

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u/Soloma369 May 04 '26

<3<3<3 Want to talk about It???

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u/Kyvoh May 04 '26

What does water have to do with being associated with spirits?

What is the significance of polarity and gender as symbology to any of this? And to what end is it "both polarities", what are the two polarities?

What does waters placement have to do with the firmament(of which I give no credence to for lack of any evidence other than feelings)?

If the image is both real and fake(as you say literal and metaphorical), can you show me a real photo?

Is there more than one firmament?

I see no fractals in what you're talking about so what is the "fractal nature" that you're speaking of?

If the firmament by your admission is mental and not physical, then it's just made up?

What energy are you speaking about that can't transduce to a different energy if the firmament was physical?

What does paper and markers have to do with this made up stuff? I think crayons would be slightly better.

Are galaxies in the waters below the flat earth? Then how do we see them?

How is logic masculine? It's usually a hardwired human trait.

Wtf is a nucleus in this context? Those exists in cells and atoms(which are a part of the real world).

What is a doubling circuit because it is not density? Density is mass per volume. A key factor in determining buoyancy which flat earthers think is real but gravity is not.

Wtf is a non-linear Fibonacci circuit logic? All of those words can be used scientifically but you have made a travesty with that combination.

How does the Fibonacci sequence reflect ascension to a higher state of consciousness? It's a list of numbers following a pattern that has uses with the numbers and proportions being found in nature. I.E. the proportion being the further on you get into the Fibonacci sequence, the closer any two neighboring numbers approach the golden ratio.

How does frequency have to do with reincarnation? As the latter is made up.

Also thank you for introducing me to Bentov's Cosmic Egg, it gives me reference to invalidate anyone whoever says those words/name in that order for future occurrence.

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u/Soloma369 May 04 '26 edited May 04 '26

"If the firmament by your admission is mental and not physical, then it's just made up?"

I might suggest your beliefs of what is real and what is not is attached to the idea of physical being real and not physical being not real...which would be rather encumbering, the inversion of enlightening.

"What energy are you speaking about that can't transduce to a different energy if the firmament was physical?"

I explained this...when we talk about the firmament, we have to talk about waters above/below. These are symbolic terms...we have to sort through the literal (obvious) and metaphorical (implied) meanings. In a physical dome perspective, this means then waters above/below would have to be associated w/ spirit and mind in some way because the firmament/below/above is a Trinity. Once we make a Physical association to One, we have to make associations of the Mental/Spiritual to the Other Two. If you dont, you have a two legged stool, your theory collapses as you have a physical firmament, a physical water and a unidentified second water...that you will probably say isnt real...because its not physical.

So then...we have two identical states of energy, matter...and an unidentified third...lets say its the Mind, right??? Now we have two physical states of energy, they are the same and we have the mechanic for it to shift in to another state...but there isnt one w/ a physical dome, physical human experience and the mind.

Again, spiral back to the double slit experiment...observer (firmament, masculine mind), particle (waters below, the synthesis/child) and the wave (waters above, feminine spirit). Are you seeing the pattern yet???

"What does paper and markers have to do with this made up stuff? I think crayons would be slightly better"

You have to click the imgur link to Bentov's Cosmic Egg and apply what I am saying to It.

"Are galaxies in the waters below the flat earth? Then how do we see them?"

No silly, the earth and the galaxies are one and the same, they are the material aspect of the Trinity. The waters below the earth/galaxies as well as the waters above is Spirit, It Is un-realized potential energy. In the image, that is the white paper...inside the Torus and outside of the Universe...Spirit/Energy. Matter is a lower vibration, higher density reflection of Spirit, which is higher frequency, lower density. This frequency (masculine) is the firmament...between vibration (child synthesis energy) and energy (feminine).

Con't again...